Cat back performance gains.....

[Jaxstang]

Oh God! Please not this argument again! Every thread gets spoiled by the same argument made by the same 2 or 3 people. Time to stop the non-sense and move on. Please keep this thread on topic.

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[stulaw11]

Oh God! Please not this argument again! Every thread gets spoiled by the same argument made by the same 2 or 3 people. Time to stop the non-sense and move on. Please keep this thread on topic.

Yup. Same 2-3 people who think bullying people to agree with their "my view is the only right view and the rest of you know sh*t" (as it was so elegantly stated and deleted) is the best way to go about these forums.

Arguing over a 2-5 HP difference in the scheme of average 400 at the wheels (if done correctly with a tune etc) is pure insanity first of all.

And to the thread topic itself, whether you gain 3 or 7 who gives a f*$%$ really? If you're not removing the restrictions of the headers/cats while arguing over "best exhaust for HP" then you're doing it wrong to begin with. It's the wrong question out of the gate honestly if power is your main concern regarding an exhaust.

 

[bakerjd]

Oh God! Please not this argument again! Every thread gets spoiled by the same argument made by the same 2 or 3 people. Time to stop the non-sense and move on. Please keep this thread on topic.

Don't worry, I won't be entertaining that ever again. No sense in "playing chess with pigeons".

 

[Tommy V]

Yup. Same 2-3 people who think bullying people to agree with their "my view is the only right view and the rest of you know sh*t" (as it was so elegantly stated and deleted) is the best way to go about these forums.

Arguing over a 2-5 HP difference in the scheme of average 400 at the wheels (if done correctly with a tune etc) is pure insanity first of all.

And to the thread topic itself, whether you gain 3 or 7 who gives a f*$%$ really? If you're not removing the restrictions of the headers/cats while arguing over "best exhaust for HP" then you're doing it wrong to begin with. It's the wrong question out of the gate honestly if power is your main concern regarding an exhaust.

The thread started over 2 car losing 10 to 12 hp get it right before u jump in.And Im glad u can no what people give a crap about hp wise, im sure everyone shares ur opinion.Ask livernoise how much removing cats gives u, but im sure u know more then them too.Not that much to temove cats.

 

[stulaw11]

The thread started over 2 car losing 10 to 12 hp get it right before u jump in.And Im glad u can no what people give a crap about hp wise, im sure everyone shares ur opinion.Ask livernoise how much removing cats gives u, but im sure u know more then them too.Not that much to temove cats.

Again being a smarta** and you wonder why no one respects your opinion?

Where did I say just cats? I said cats/headers; both; headers being the biggest restriction left.

pinching an 1/8" straw to 1/16" is the same as pinching a 1/2" straw to 1/16" in one spot. The restriction is the limiting factor of the system. You can put on the least restrictive 4 inch tubing out there and it STILL wont make more HP without opening up the headers and tossing the OEM.

Arguing over 2-5 HP differences leaving the most restrictive item in the system in tact is an asinine argument to begin with

But please, continue arguing for the sake of arguing.:frusty:

 

[Tommy V]

Again being a smarta** and you wonder why no one respects your opinion?

Where did I say just cats? I said cats/headers; both; headers being the biggest restriction left.
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pinching an 1/8" straw to 1/16" is the same as pinching a 1/2" straw to 1/16" in one spot. The restriction is the limiting factor of the system. You can put on the least restrictive 4 inch tubing out there and it STILL wont make more HP without opening up the headers and tossing the OEM.

Arguing over 2-5 HP differences leaving the most restrictive item in the system in tact is an asinine argument to begin with

But please, continue arguing for the sake of arguing.:frusty:

Look simple as this, im not arguing over 2 to 5 hp go back and read the other threads.Im not putting a system provin by two tuners to lose 12 hp.As far as how much a catback will yeild hp wise it will all come out.Now im done.Oh and also u dont need a tune for a catback, but u didnt say that either.
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[stulaw11]

Look simple as this, im not arguing over 2 to 5 hp go back and read the other threads.Im not putting a system provin by two tuners to lose 12 hp.As far as how much a catback will yeild hp wise it will all come out.Now im done.Oh and also u dont need a tune for a catback, but u didnt say that either.
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Arguing over a 2-5 HP difference in the scheme of average 400 at the wheels (if done correctly with a tune etc) is pure insanity first of all.

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[beefcake]

On average. About 5 hp. Mainly sound. Pick the sound u like and go from there. We have many different brands available.

 

[Koncealed]

This is probably a stupid question, but are these small gains you guys are talking about (5hp) what you guys are seeing stock vs stock w/ exhaust? Or are you guys talking about tuning it for the exhaust on an already tuned car? I wonder how much it'd make with a tune to take use of it.

 

[Sasuketr]

5 hp looks reasonable, u might get a little more if you pair it with a highflow drop in filter like K&N or AEM. But as other people mentioned already, the main purpose would be sound and shedding 30lbs. I really can't stand the car scaling it around 3815 lbs (pig category) as fully loaded. So at least it would ease my mind being 3785lbs lol Cheers.

 

[Tommy V]

This is probably a stupid question, but are these small gains you guys are talking about (5hp) what you guys are seeing stock vs stock w/ exhaust? Or are you guys talking about tuning it for the exhaust on an already tuned car? I wonder how much it'd make with a tune to take use of it.

Sorry man this argument goes way back lol.For a catback u dont have to tune ur car.If u get into headers and cats u do.I guess the main argument being how much will a catback give u on a stock/no tuned car.And many different answers, but their are some info out their right now.

 

[Tommy V]

5 hp looks reasonable, u might get a little more if you pair it with a highflow drop in filter like K&N or AEM. But as other people mentioned already, the main purpose would be sound and shedding 30lbs. I really can't stand the car scaling it around 3815 lbs (pig category) as fully loaded. So at least it would ease my mind being 3785lbs lol Cheers.

I seen u said 3815 is that a loaded pp, and do u have the recaros?

 

[Sasuketr]

I seen u said 3815 is that a loaded pp, and do u have the recaros?

Someone here on this thread scaled his car which is the same as mine 401a, 68b, reverse sensing, active alarm and performance pack no recaros no active cruise no extra chrome from the 50th aniv package and it weights 3815 with full tank of fuel. With 100% loaded no recaros i m guessing the car will weight even more. The limited edition ones has to be the heaviest them all.

 

[Koncealed]

Sorry man this argument goes way back lol.For a catback u dont have to tune ur car.If u get into headers and cats u do.I guess the main argument being how much will a catback give u on a stock/no tuned car.And many different answers, but their are some info out their right now.

Yeah I know lol.. I think it's pretty stupid to be wanting HP numbers when you don't tune your car for the exhaust. Then again, I come from the world of Subaru STI's so it's obvious.

 

[Tommy V]

YeahitI know lol.. I think it's pretty stupid to be wanting HP numbers when you don't tune your car for the exhaust. Then again, I come from the world of Subaru STI's so it's obvious.

Yea I hear ya lol, but when It comes to turbocharged or sc exhaust play alot more factor.But my opinion all along was being able to get 10 maybe more hp out of a catback on this car.Theirs going to be alot of things coming out about that resonator and u can look into the mufflers, their not straight through.Thats notalways a bad thing, but we are talking about a stock muffler.Dont make no sence to start with headers/cats if the back end is restricted lol.

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