Base Model GT350R by year?

[PP0001]

My two cents. I have not driven a Base R for the record, but I would imagine having a dozen items deleted from the car including the radio and AC makes a difference. We're talking about around 100 pounds taken off the car. Now you might not notice it all that much on the road, but on a track? Different story. Not only that there is less sound deadening in a Base R. So better sound. And just an overall better experience I would imagine. Would love to drive one to find out for myself lol.

Better yet, you might consider buying JR157 (Shadow Black) and then you would have lots of seat time as I think my good friend may let it go due to ongoing health issues.

I threw in a brand-new Carbon Revolution front CF wheel with the deal.

Of the 21 Base R models built for the final production year there were 19 examples built for the U.S. and 2 for Canada with 5 in total coming in SB with JR157 the only example with Lightning Blue OTT stripes.

It took many discussions with Dearborn and Ford of Canada to build a 2nd Base R for Canada but they came through and was very thankful to both groups for their help!

As a side note the very last Base R built was JR394 (Shadow Black with no OTT stripes) and sold to a friend on the West Coast.

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[UpACurb]

I don’t have any dogs in the race as I own a 19R but I can say without hesitation I would rather have a base R.

I love the HER but…. Less weight… more noise… sign me up…

I mean the air conditioning just seems to break anyways

who needs a radio

I think the tram lining adds character

 

[EBTAGMOTO]

I see you ended up splitting up the HE set. You're left with the base, the PP500, and the Grabber? Which new base car are you looking at? I enjoy my base more than the others as well. It's rowdy.

As mentioned in my post I have really been through a lot of them over the past couple of years. I really liked my Heritage 500 (PP005) and put about 4000 miles on it. I had a chance to get a decent trade on one with 200 miles on it so I did that last fall. Having a PP car is cool but in my case the car I had was a "voice of the customer car" and Ford Engineers put about 8000 miles on it in a couple of months so it had some chips, scrapes, etc. so when the opportunity arose I traded it in. Over the past 1-2 years I've learned that I am not a collector even though I keep trying. That being said I sold the Grabber Blue R that was a (1) of (1) car. I like to drive my cars and that car was just too nice. Thought that I would get more into the car shows etc. so somewhere along the line I picked up the HEP R and the 65 Tribute (the most authentic tribute I have ever seen). Went to a few shows won best of show with the 65 and realized cleaning them up and talking about cars all day was cool but not really my thing either. I sold both of those cars. A few weeks ago I picked up a 2016 tri coat yellow R out in CA. The car is still out there and next week I am going to grab it and road trip to the Shelby Bash. So today I have GR260 Tri Coat Yellow R, GR302 Magnetic Base R and my 2022 GT500 Heritage. I have my eye on a black 2017 Base R so we shall see what is next.

 

[Tomster]

Wow…this train went off the tracks fast!

To imply that an HEP is a grocery getter because it has a radio is borderline idiotic. Slightly less pure? Fine. But minivan status because of a silly radio? Now we’re no longer having a logical, reasonable debate.

And yes, limited edition heritage color scheme is inherently special. It’s a color with historical significance to the lineage of the car…if you don’t think color matters than I’ll personally pay to wrap your car in matte pink vinyl. No big deal I assume? It’s not a value thing for me…it’s just plain and simple that a heritage color like this one is special to a massive pool of buyers. Maybe not you, that’s fine, but let’s be reasonable here at least. And if value is part of the debate, just look at the massive disparity in valuation of special cars of years past…price difference can be massive off color spec alone. If you don’t appreciate that, you’re out to lunch.

But starting to feel like I’m having a political debate with the opposing party - no sense in trying to convince eachother. You enjoy your base R, and I’ll enjoy my HEP…and let’s both respect the fact that we all own some of the best cars ever made. Color scheme and a high quality radio are simply more important to me than they are to you, and I’ll beat the piss out of my stripped out E36 on the track while enjoying my 350 for heavily spirited weekend drives. To each his own!

Actually, I know a guy who wraps cars. Pink and rainbow would be out of the question due to what they imply, but sure, I'll take your offer on a wrap. How about matte black, or something like that. It doesn't have to be matte black, maybe something else other than the color of the car, because it really doesn't matter, like you said.

So I'll get an estimate, post it here, and you can pay for it. I think it's a great idea. Get the checkbook and pen out sir. This will be a fun project. Hmm, I wonder if the wrap they use on the prototypes like the GTD is available.

 

[Finally21]

Actually, I know a guy who wraps cars. Pink and rainbow would be out of the question due to what they imply, but sure, I'll take your offer on a wrap. How about matte black, or something like that. It doesn't have to be matte black, maybe something else other than the color of the car, because it really doesn't matter, like you said.

So I'll get an estimate, post it here, and you can pay for it. I think it's a great idea. Get the checkbook and pen out sir. This will be a fun project. Hmm, I wonder if the wrap they use on the prototypes like the GTD is available.

I believe he only offered matt pink vinyl.

 

[Tomster]

I believe he only offered matt pink vinyl.

Under the condition that if color doesn't matter. Well, it does when it comes to pink or rainbow. Those aren't just any other colors, lol

 

[Dharri21]

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No question that the 280 Heritage Edition Package R model examples for the final GT350 production year are very cool cars and it was great that Ford Performance paid homage to the 1965 GT350's with their Wimbledon White exterior body color and Guardsman Blue vinyl OTT stripes.

Having said that and after having much seat time in numerous Base R models and also in the 2020 GT350R HE, from a pure driving engagement and overall automotive experience my choice of vehicles would always be the Base R model and that goes for any 2020 GT350R regardless of the paint or stripe configuration.

Your point is well taken with respect to rare R model colors but suggest that extremely low production numbers either by production year and/or a specific model will be a much more important factor than any rare color/stripe combination.

When it comes to overall collectability, rarity and value there is no question that of the 3,647 R models built over the 6-year run the 2015 GT350R models (37) will always be the most sought after and most valuable in the long run and it won't even be close.

Of the 3,647 total R models built the most valuable R model will always be "F0001" and that fact that it just happens to be only 1 of 6 Base R models built for the 2015 model year makes it that much more desirable.

I am not here to suggest that a 2015 Base R is or will be more valuable than a 2015 Electronics Package R in the long run, but when you have individuals such as Bill Ford, Jim Farley and Jamal Hameedi who could have ordered any configuration for a GT350R model and ended up choosing a Base R model, what does that tell you about the attributes for that model?

Have attached pictures of F0004 recently at Willow Springs and HR001 back in the day with both originally being ordered and spec'd out by two of the above individuals.

Rapid Red on a GT350R with no stripes is pure art.

 

[NPTR]

I believe he only offered matt pink vinyl.

Exactly - color of my choice. I choose the wrap color and the wrap company. I assure you it will be a reputable company in your area with good reviews and customer service, and we can agree to in advance to the quality of the wrap. Leaning towards pink, but since the color doesn’t matter to you and has no impact on your enjoyment / appreciation of the vehicle, I reserve the right to change the color of the wrap at any time prior to a stated date. We can rule out rainbow, if that makes you feel better. We can also rule out anything objectively offensive - certain symbols, logos, flags, nothing like that…just a color of my choosing (albeit, it can be a dynamic wrap, doesn’t need to be a solid color throughout). We also agree to a set amount of time for you will keep the wrap on the car - I’m thinking something like 5-10 years. If you remove the wrap or sell the car before expiration of our agreement, then you owe me ~10x the cost of the wrap (plus inflation), in addition to the right to purchase the car at an agreed upon market value at time of agreement. Let me know if you’re still interested, can start drafting an agreement up in short order

 

[PP0001]

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Rapid Red on a GT350R with no stripes is pure art.

Agreed whether it was Rapid Red, Race Red or Ruby Red, all of those cool Red color variations looked outstanding on all R models with OTT stripes never being available as an option throughout the 6 model years.

 

[Tomster]

Exactly - color of my choice. I choose the wrap color and the wrap company. I assure you it will be a reputable company in your area with good reviews and customer service, and we can agree to in advance to the quality of the wrap. Leaning towards pink, but since the color doesn’t matter to you and has no impact on your enjoyment / appreciation of the vehicle, I reserve the right to change the color of the wrap at any time prior to a stated date. We can rule out rainbow, if that makes you feel better. We can also rule out anything objectively offensive - certain symbols, logos, flags, nothing like that…just a color of my choosing (albeit, it can be a dynamic wrap, doesn’t need to be a solid color throughout). We also agree to a set amount of time for you will keep the wrap on the car - I’m thinking something like 5-10 years. If you remove the wrap or sell the car before expiration of our agreement, then you owe me ~10x the cost of the wrap (plus inflation), in addition to the right to purchase the car at an agreed upon market value at time of agreement. Let me know if you’re still interested, can start drafting an agreement up in short order

Na, it's not like I lost a bet or anything. I think your point of color being so important should leave whatever color I choose to be unimportant. I chose the color of my cars, and the fact that I'd be willing to do so, even wrapped in camo, would reinforce my point.

Pink, huh? Speaks volumes.

 

[MAGS1]

Pink, huh?

It’s been done…

Hexis films by the way if anyone is actually interested LOL

 

[Tomster]

It’s been done…

Hexis films by the way if anyone is actually interested LOL

That's not just any other color, it's either you lost a bet or you are making a statement. Certainly doesn't fit within the context of the point. My point was that the HEP is just another color, yet the ones who have it adorn it so and (can and have been) smug about it when all it is when you boil it down, a different color and badges.

The GT350 R stands for more than just paint and badges, and if I may add, the ideology behind the R is maximum performance. If you want that, then the base R is the ticket.

Pink, lol. I'll look and see about some other color (other than the ones I chose for my Rs) and let the offer stand to prove my point.

Although I do think a camo wrap would be cool.

Yea, something like this.....

 

[Tomster]

Something like this would be cool as well.

 

[MAGS1]

That's not just any other color, it's either you lost a bet or you are making a statement. Certainly doesn't fit within the context of the point. My point was that the HEP is just another color, yet the ones who have it adorn it so and (can and have been) smug about it when all it is when you boil it down, a different color and badges.

The GT350 R stands for more than just paint and badges, and if I may add, the ideology behind the R is maximum performance. If you want that, then the base R is the ticket.

Pink, lol. I'll look and see about some other color (other than the ones I chose for my Rs) and let the offer stand to prove my point.

Although I do think a camo wrap would be cool.

Yea, something like this.....

Oh that’s definitely a hey look at me color, especially since they have their Instagram handle on the quarter window. Do it all for the Gram, Tom!

I get and appreciate the HE color scheme for the 2020 GT350/R and I think it’s cool Ford did it. But at the end of the day it’s the same as any other 2020 GT350/R from a performance standpoint. So I agree with you there. As you have stated, the Base R is the R in its purist form outside of being an actual race car.

HE R’s are still going for good money, I think there’s a broader base of Mustang/Shelby fans that can relate to the 2020 HE’s and their homage to the past, whereas it’s a much smaller subset of folks that understand what the Base R really is.

As far as which one would be worth more 20 years from now, I haven’t the slightest clue and couldn’t care less honestly. I buy cars to drive and enjoy, so if I bought either one it would get plenty of mileage on it, probably enough to render future value irrelevant.

Those camo wraps are good, I’d find out where you can get one of those

 

[PP0001]

Oh that’s definitely a hey look at me color, especially since they have their Instagram handle on the quarter window. Do it all for the Gram, Tom!

I get and appreciate the HE color scheme for the 2020 GT350/R and I think it’s cool Ford did it. But at the end of the day it’s the same as any other 2020 GT350/R from a performance standpoint. So I agree with you there. As you have stated, the Base R is the R in its purist form outside of being an actual race car.

HE R’s are still going for good money, I think there’s a broader base of Mustang/Shelby fans that can relate to the 2020 HE’s and their homage to the past, whereas it’s a much smaller subset of folks that understand what the Base R really is.

As far as which one would be worth more 20 years from now, I haven’t the slightest clue and couldn’t care less honestly. I buy cars to drive and enjoy, so if I bought either one it would get plenty of mileage on it, probably enough to render future value irrelevant.

Those camo wraps are good, I’d find out where you can get one of those

Agreed that the 2020 GT350R HEP models are still selling for very good money especially the very low mileage examples.

The last sold 2020 GT350R HEP that I am aware of went last February and hammered for ~$155K OTD which is ~$76,000 over MSRP.

A couple weeks back I was visiting a close friend in Georgia and when looking at his 2015 GT350R he mentioned that he recently had received an unsolicited call from a well-known auction house after which time they wanted to purchase his 2015 GT350R as they had a buyer for it.

When the conversation came around to price, they said that they would net him $200K but he declined.

Suggest that the auction house would be reselling that 2015 GT350R to their customer for somewhere around $215K to $220K or ~$150,000 over MSRP.

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