Availability - Dealerships with allocations

[adrift]

I hear you about the price getting into C7 area, but personally I think the GT350 looks better...there is something about the Vette that looks to "Transformer" to me....I know the car performs...its just me....

I really like the Ferrari inspired looks of the C7, but the LT1 is garbage. I'm afraid to buy one for that reason and I'm worried that my winter driving experience will be so bad I will have to get a winter beater.

I think it will be hard for most people to justify paying more than a few thousand ADM for the GT350 when the 'vette is so much lighter, though.

It should be interesting to see what happens, but I would assume the cars with bigger ADM will mostly sit on lots.

Everyone knows that a race-prepared C7 will out perform a race-prepared GT350, as race-prepared C7's utilize the Z06 as the benchmark. They're two different classes. However, the prior poster said "a C7"... He did not specify a C7 Z06.

In order to get the level of performance out of a GM product you will have to escalate to a Z06 as the GT350 has been rumored to have tracked the Gring more quickly than the Z/28.

Wow, really appreciate the intelligent responses - kind of expected to get hazed on my complaint. ;)

As a long time Ford fanatic I have to admit Ford is making this painful when it could be easy.

I do love the VOODOO, that's the most awesome thing in America right now, it's exactly what I want in a motor. But on every other count I personally favor the C7 Z51, especially on options choices and flexibility. I hate to say it, but chevy doesn't make you give up anything.

For overall performance, I think the C7 Z51 will be very close to the GT350/R, close enough that it's negligible to me (see C&D VIR testing). I do hope to track what I get a few times. Of course, the C7 appears to suffer serious quality problems, too, from what I've read/heard.

I'd expect the C7 is a better DD which is what I'm in the market for, if I get lucky and end up with a GT350R...I will be driving/loving it everyday!

I cannot buy until sometime next year as I'm working overseas for the military right now - so I sure hope getting a GT350 at MSRP is easy. Hopefully with our comments Ford will improve the offering. And long live that 8250-redline VOODOO! :ford:

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[DrumReaper]

Adrift, thanks for your service, brother, and right on (!) with the VooDoo!!!

 

[Hack]

I do love the VOODOO, that's the most awesome thing in America right now, it's exactly what I want in a motor. But on every other count I personally favor the C7 Z51, especially on options choices and flexibility. I hate to say it, but chevy doesn't make you give up anything.

For overall performance, I think the C7 Z51 will be very close to the GT350/R, close enough that it's negligible to me (see C&D VIR testing). I do hope to track what I get a few times. Of course, the C7 appears to suffer serious quality problems, too, from what I've read/heard.

I'd expect the C7 is a better DD which is what I'm in the market for, if I get lucky and end up with a GT350R...I will be driving/loving it everyday!

I cannot buy until sometime next year as I'm working overseas for the military right now - so I sure hope getting a GT350 at MSRP is easy. Hopefully with our comments Ford will improve the offering. And long live that 8250-redline VOODOO! :ford:

I agree that the engine looks to be fabulous and it's the main reason I'm after the GT350 as well.

I'm not so sure about the C7 being a good daily driver. How are the seats? Is the car somewhat roomy inside? I need to sit in one, I guess.

Thank you for your service!

 

[adrift]

Thanks DrumReaper and Hack, in the same vein I can say there is one thing of which I've become convinced after traveling to all these different countries - no doubt America is the best country in the world. We have built the best conditions for all.
Hopefully we'll all get to enjoy many miles in a beautiful GT350, free to choose.

 

[NewSVO]

So I just tried countless dealerships and got mixed reactions:
First went with the local ones and two of them I would be a return customer so I would expect even some respect but they were either clueless about ordering and that to call them in a couple of months and to not expect the ADM to be less than 10k

Tried smaller dealers and even the big ones only have 1 R allocation and they all want 20k for the R, I'm out of luck here. I had a dealer promise me MSRP and now the inventory manager said sorry we can't honor it anymore but we "maybe" can on a normal gt350.

What a joke.

 

[krt22]

The struggle is real

 

[Cruzinaround]

Everyone knows that a race-prepared C7 will out perform a race-prepared GT350, as race-prepared C7's utilize the Z06 as the benchmark. They're two different classes. However, the prior poster said "a C7"... He did not specify a C7 Z06.

In order to get the level of performance out of a GM product you will have to escalate to a Z06 as the GT350 has been rumored to have tracked the Gring more quickly than the Z/28.

We don't know anything yet. Waiting until both are able to go at it on a track will tell. Anything right now.... is guessing.

 

[Mustang1260]

Here's something to ponder... The R will hold its value and eventually appreciate if the quantity is kept low.

Let's look at the original GT350... Produced between 1965-1970. How many years did they produce the GT350R?... 1965-66, if I remember correctly.

The GT350R was produced for one year only- 1965. It was made is a "disputed" run of 34-37 cars. Ford claims 34 vins and Shelby always said 37. Shelby's "work" with the GT350 program was extremely limited (and even that is an overstatement as Shelby was ass deep in bigger issues with Ford and the GT40 program)-Phil Remington and Ken Miles (and Peter Brock) did most of the heavy lifting...but like Ferrari gets the "credit" for his cars Carroll got the same--you guys do know that Shelby only build the Mustangs from 65-67. After that Ford took over with name rights.

The 1965 GT350R were race cars and actually ran races in many sanctioned SAAC events and took championships...the current Rs will NOT. The current R is NOT a race car and no where near close to one-it is still very much a street car that has substantial/decent open track day capabilities.

The 60s Shelbys have a strong emotional bond to that time period of developing performance and race cars being close to street cars (aka mid 60s). Teens back then lusted after them and now when those teens are in their 60s with money-they want them. Current teens lusting after a mustang in 30+years--not so much.

Will GT350R dump in value--no!, but they will not soar either (except new in the hands of a dealer selling his one piece of gold). Buy one because you like it. If it sells well with lots of ADA fully expect Ford to raise the MSRP on the 17 model so be damn careful before you reject a $5k over deal as the MSRP may just jump $5k the next year. If they only build 500 per year--expect pricing issue for at LEAST 2 years. AND Ford is NOT going to let a halo car "drop" in the market-if sales slow Ford will stop the R program at 2 yrs to keep it a limited holy car. They may keep the standard GT350 going..but the R will be highly market sensitive - if they "sit" on lots Ford will terminate production..

 

[mbreinin]

These allocations are for the limited 2015s, right? You will be able to order a 2016 at MSRP relatively soon (or even now), correct? Or, will dealers still only get a limited amount even for 2016?

 

[krt22]

These allocations are for the limited 2015s, right? You will be able to order a 2016 at MSRP relatively soon (or even now), correct? Or, will dealers still only get a limited amount even for 2016?

No, at least not in most metro areas, these allocations/ADMS are in fact for teh 2016s.

Quite a few have secured MSRP deals for the 2016s, but there are countless dealers out there with 5-100k ADM (average seems to be 20-25k) on 2016 cars. I think most of the MSRP deals on here have been at smaller market dealers.

I called 35+ dealers in CA and didnt find a single dealer that had cars and wasnt charging a huge ADM. Only 2-3 said they sold their cars at MSRP, and of course those were all spoken for. Now that is not to say all of those dealers asking 20k over have sold any cars, they are just asking that much and hoping to get it. I imagine most will go for much less than that.

 

[mbreinin]

No, at least not in most metro areas, these allocations/ADMS are in fact for teh 2016s.

Quite a few have secured MSRP deals for the 2016s, but there are countless dealers out there with 5-100k ADM on 2016 cars. I think most of the MSRP deals on here have been at smaller market dealers.

I called 35+ dealers in CA and didnt find a single dealer that had cars and wasnt charging a huge ADM. Only 2-3 said they sold their cars at MSRP, and of course those were all spoken for.

Well, that sucks. I know I will have zero chance of finding the car I want on a lot (base car, AG with white stripes) and will have to order. I guess I will talk to the dealers I have bought cars from in the past.

 

[Mustang1260]

TYou will be able to order a 2016 at MSRP relatively soon (or even now), correct? Or, will dealers still only get a limited amount even for 2016?

Dealers will get VERY limited allocation for 2016 and 2017. SOME dealers will let you order and fewer yet will let you order for MSRP. MOST dealers will shop order and see what the market will bring. Not saying it can't be done- as some have done it--but custom ordering a GT350 will be rare, at MSRP even rarer. You will need LUCK and lots of ground work (dealer visits) to find such a deal. Those that tell you the market will fall and GT350 can be had for MSRP or under by next spring do not have a clue as to what they are talking about.

 

[krt22]

Dealers will get VERY limited allocation for 2016 and 2017. SOME dealers will let you order and fewer yet will let you order for MSRP. MOST dealers will shop order and see what the market will bring. Not saying it can't be done- as some have done it--but custom ordering a GT350 will be rare, at MSRP even rarer. You will need LUCK and lots of ground work (dealer visits) to find such a deal.

In big states, 100% agree. I, like a few others, found cars in the midwest, custom ordered, at MSRP.

My "adm" will be the $1300 to ship the car, which im more than willing to do to have it how I want. Im guessing most cars sitting on lots will be tech pack cars and likely not my colors of choice, so a real crap shoot.

 

[Rated R]

In big states, 100% agree. I, like a few others, found cars in the midwest, custom ordered, at MSRP.

My "adm" will be the $1300 to ship the car, which im more than willing to do to have it how I want. Im guessing most cars sitting on lots will be tech pack cars and likely not my colors of choice, so a real crap shoot.

How far out did you find an allocation? And congrats on finding one...:cheers:

 

[mbreinin]

My fear is all of them will get ordered loaded out with tech packs. I just want the base car. I would probably pay up to a couple grand over MSRP, but the car would have to be what I am looking for. I guess it will be harder than anticipated to get one.

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