almost the perfect GT except for this

[Hack]

Here are some pics of what I'm talking about. Wondering if anyone else has the same thing and just hasn't noticed yet (in which case you're about to hate me for bringing it up!).

You can see the reflection of the 3rd brake light on the glass is off. Also notice how the seam is different at the top where the glass edge meets the roof. You can see how it's higher on one side...

I think you should be shopping in the $50k plus price range. I don't see what you're talking about at all.

Typically I'm a live and let live kind of guy, but I must admit that I'm irritated that some people complain about this kind of thing and then I end up paying more for a car because Ford has to pay for someone to mess with it. I thought I was getting a cheap performance vehicle, not perfection.

on edit: I am not criticizing the original poster. That misalignment might be worse. The photo doesn't give me the perspective to judge.

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[Lone Survivor]

I think you should be shopping in the $50k plus price range. I don't see what you're talking about at all.

Typically I'm a live and let live kind of guy, but I must admit that I'm irritated that some people complain about this kind of thing and then I end up paying more for a car because Ford has to pay for someone to mess with it. I thought I was getting a cheap performance vehicle, not perfection.

on edit: I am not criticizing the original poster. That misalignment might be worse. The photo doesn't give me the perspective to judge.

Well, what a cock you are, not to expect a car to be right, not perfect but right!

I suppose if you bought some prawns to eat, you'd be happy with seaweed?

Fook me, nothing wrong with getting the basics right!

What if your partner came with the wrong appendage, would you just accept?

Get a feckin life.

 

[Stormtrooper5.0]

Wow i have the same fender problem with my 2015 mustang rental. I forgot to tell the dealer, im sure they will fix it.

 

[P4RKER]

Well, what a cock you are, not to expect a car to be right, not perfect but right!

I suppose if you bought some prawns to eat, you'd be happy with seaweed?

Fook me, nothing wrong with getting the basics right!

What if your partner came with the wrong appendage, would you just accept?

Get a feckin life.

There is no reason to make this personal. I actually agree with Hack. Ya these cars have problems with lines and rear windshields and whatever else. So does my neighbors BMW which costs a hell of a lot more than any Mustang. I would rather spend 40k on this incredible engine and chassis and deal with some body issues (I had to fix my hood personally) than either spend 40k and get a lot less engine/handling and a perfect body or spend 80k+ to get all 3. Pick what you are really looking for and buy that. But don't buy a performance car at a budget price and complain it isn't up to luxury standards.

Yes, A titanium level ford sedan can cost the same or less but the performance and handling characteristics are so lacking ford can afford to get the body "perfect." I think ford chose the right things to work on and the rest is why warranty exists.

 

[Lone Survivor]

There is no reason to make this personal. I actually agree with Hack. Ya these cars have problems with lines and rear windshields and whatever else. So does my neighbors BMW which costs a hell of a lot more than any Mustang. I would rather spend 40k on this incredible engine and chassis and deal with some body issues (I had to fix my hood personally) than either spend 40k and get a lot less engine/handling and a perfect body or spend 80k+ to get all 3. Pick what you are really looking for and buy that. But don't buy a performance car at a budget price and complain it isn't up to luxury standards.

Yes, A titanium level ford sedan can cost the same or less but the performance and handling characteristics are so lacking ford can afford to get the body "perfect." I think ford chose the right things to work on and the rest is why warranty exists.

Right, let me get this right, Ford decided that tHey would forego QC and just let it hang on a dealers interpretation of warranty?

It doesn't matter whether you spend one penny or $50k, you have every right to expect a modicum of quality.

I'm not taking this personally, you are wrong, that's a fact, pass it on.

 

[MSMStannyl]

I think you should be shopping in the $50k plus price range. I don't see what you're talking about at all.

Typically I'm a live and let live kind of guy, but I must admit that I'm irritated that some people complain about this kind of thing and then I end up paying more for a car because Ford has to pay for someone to mess with it. I thought I was getting a cheap performance vehicle, not perfection.

on edit: I am not criticizing the original poster. That misalignment might be worse. The photo doesn't give me the perspective to judge.

Not sure how you can possibly miss what I'm taking about. Are you looking at the pic on your phone screen or on a monitor? Seems pretty obvious to me and it's even more pronounced when the brake light is on. Then again, I'm an engineer by trade so maybe I just notice these things.

In any case, thanks for your opinion and all but I don't need you to tell me what to shop for or what price range I should be in. I would expect the simple things to be done right on a $15k car, let alone a $40k car. My car aside, the defects I saw on other cars on the lot were ridiculous. In today's age of computers and lasers, it blows my mind that it can be that difficult to get a windshield in straight. Or how about a glass installer at the factory who actually gives a f**k.

Regardless, no offense but I have absolutely zero concern for you worrying about my, and others complaints about Fords QC raising the price of your car. Not my problem. What I care about is the car I purchased and the quality I believe should be expected. Your response is exactly why people have concerns about buying American cars. There's just no expectation of quality. It took years for me to get to this point of buying one and I still get the jokes about it being a Ford here and there. i can only hope that Ford expects more of themselves than you do.

 

[Raven]

Here are some pics of what I'm talking about. Wondering if anyone else has the same thing and just hasn't noticed yet (in which case you're about to hate me for bringing it up!).

You can see the reflection of the 3rd brake light on the glass is off. Also notice how the seam is different at the top where the glass edge meets the roof. You can see how it's higher on one side...

This is one of the most common QC issues people have been complaining about this year.

 

[Charles147]

This is one of the most common QC issues people have been complaining about this year.

this ^ ....and non-cooling seats and hood. It's a shame, yes. Still love my :ford: Mustang!

 

[P4RKER]

Right, let me get this right, Ford decided that tHey would forego QC and just let it hang on a dealers interpretation of warranty?

It doesn't matter whether you spend one penny or $50k, you have every right to expect a modicum of quality.

I'm not taking this personally, you are wrong, that's a fact, pass it on.

LOL well thank you so much for setting me straight there. Glad to know this country is still full of people who have your level of self-righteousness. I was beginning to think we had started to act civilized.

In a discussion of opinion there is no right. Pass it on.

I agree there are a lot of issues and my car was not without those issues. I fixed them and kept my comments to myself because I spent 40k on the performance aspect of the car. Ford hit the nail on the head there. No one else is giving this level of performance at this cost. That is what no one seems to grasp. Yes it's a 40k car and yes there are 15k cars out there with less issues. That 15k car also has little more than a hamster wheel for an engine. When there is nothing else to spend money on you can fix all of the body issues. I am not ok with making everyone spend more money on a car just because some people want to complain about the body. I am just trying to buy a relatively cheap car with ridiculous performance.

You want more quality drop an extra 20 grand elsewhere and leave the Mustang in it's price bracket. Performance outweighs looks on the track.

 

[Lone Survivor]

Well, self righteous or not, as a consumer ( Wikipedia that!), I expect something, anything that costs 35/40k to be right.

Being a Brit, we pay a premium on most things, however, we have the law on our side, if it's not fit for purpose, then we don't accept it and, the law bares us out. If, in America, as you advocate, shoddy workmanship is acceptable, then that's your problem.

I will be paying £35k, 50+k dollars for my GT, therefore, using your logic, I would expect the epitome of European quality, that is a fact, please feel free to pass that on.

I'm a consumer, I'm in the right, Ford as a vendor, are wrong in determining what quality I should accept. You, sir, are happy to accept a level of shoddy workmanship, which I hope, does not reflect on the Colonies expectations as a whole.

My North American cousins (of which I have many), have difficulty accepting your level of quality. I think, you sir should have a rethink of the customer/vendor relationship, or are you not able to complain, on your own behalf?

I have no idea whether you have the minerals to stand up for yourself, but it seems not.

 

[P4RKER]

Well, self righteous or not, as a consumer ( Wikipedia that!), I expect something, anything that costs 35/40k to be right.

Being a Brit, we pay a premium on most things, however, we have the law on our side, if it's not fit for purpose, then we don't accept it and, the law bares us out. If, in America, as you advocate, shoddy workmanship is acceptable, then that's your problem.

I will be paying £35k, 50+k dollars for my GT, therefore, using your logic, I would expect the epitome of European quality, that is a fact, please feel free to pass that on.

I'm a consumer, I'm in the right, Ford as a vendor, are wrong in determining what quality I should accept. You, sir, are happy to accept a level of shoddy workmanship, which I hope, does not reflect on the Colonies expectations as a whole.

My North American cousins (of which I have many), have difficulty accepting your level of quality. I think, you sir should have a rethink of the customer/vendor relationship, or are you not able to complain, on your own behalf?

I have no idea whether you have the minerals to stand up for yourself, but it seems not.

Didn't look at your profile before I commented first. I have never seen someone this passionate and pissed off before they ever even got their car! My god I almost hope your car comes in looking like shit. But I don't want to have to listen to you when you actually have something to complain about. Have fun and enjoy your car or not but if you are already this dead set on hating it you should probably buy something else.

If I buy a car and any issues are fixed with no complaint from the dealer how am I accepting shoddy workmanship? It's not like I had to go and pay money I got everything to my liking and then drove it off the lot. Sounds like a pretty big non issue to me.

 

[Novi331]

Not sure how you can possibly miss what I'm taking about. Are you looking at the pic on your phone screen or on a monitor? Seems pretty obvious to me and it's even more pronounced when the brake light is on. Then again, I'm an engineer by trade so maybe I just notice these things.

In any case, thanks for your opinion and all but I don't need you to tell me what to shop for or what price range I should be in. I would expect the simple things to be done right on a $15k car, let alone a $40k car. My car aside, the defects I saw on other cars on the lot were ridiculous. In today's age of computers and lasers, it blows my mind that it can be that difficult to get a windshield in straight. Or how about a glass installer at the factory who actually gives a f**k.

Regardless, no offense but I have absolutely zero concern for you worrying about my, and others complaints about Fords QC raising the price of your car. Not my problem. What I care about is the car I purchased and the quality I believe should be expected. Your response is exactly why people have concerns about buying American cars. There's just no expectation of quality. It took years for me to get to this point of buying one and I still get the jokes about it being a Ford here and there. i can only hope that Ford expects more of themselves than you do.

I see what you're talking about, mine is identical to yours. It drives me nuts, but I'm worried about a shop making it worse if they tried to fix it. I'm just going to live with mine.
It does suck though.

 

[Lone Survivor]

Didn't look at your profile before I commented first. I have never seen someone this passionate and pissed off before they ever even got their car! My god I almost hope your car comes in looking like shit. But I don't want to have to listen to you when you actually have something to complain about. Have fun and enjoy your car or not but if you are already this dead set on hating it you should probably buy something else.

If I buy a car and any issues are fixed with no complaint from the dealer how am I accepting shoddy workmanship? It's not like I had to go and pay money I got everything to my liking and then drove it off the lot. Sounds like a pretty big non issue to me.

Not hating anything buddy, just have higher standards I guess. I've put down a deposit on a car I'm not getting until late summer 16, if the car isn't right, it's Ford that'll have to answer.


Passionate, yep, pissed, nope. You keep on accepting shoddiness, I'll strive for what's right.

I guess that's olde worlde, which I suspect you don't get.

 

[P4RKER]

Not hating anything buddy, just have higher standards I guess. I've put down a deposit on a car I'm not getting until late summer 16, if the car isn't right, it's Ford that'll have to answer.


Passionate, yep, pissed, nope. You keep on accepting shoddiness, I'll strive for what's right.

I guess that's olde worlde, which I suspect you don't get.

Still not understanding how you view FORD fixing my car is FORD not taking responsibility. But that's fine. View it the way you want and I will continue to drive my car now and let you get back to being pissed off over little more than a thought at this point. have a good day

 

[stangbro]

In any case, thanks for your opinion and all but I don't need you to tell me what to shop for or what price range I should be in. I would expect the simple things to be done right on a $15k car, let alone a $40k car.

The problem here is the belief that this is a 40k plus car. It is not. It is a 23k-28k car as that is all you need to drive one off the lot. The V8 option is what makes this a 40k car and there are no QC complaints for that option is there?

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