AFD E85 "ProFlex Commander" for '15-'17 S550 GT

[Porsche_Manny]

Update for anyone that finds out about the AFD Commander, but wants to know if it's or —

— currently at 70% with Lambda staying between 1 and 0.80 (cruise to part-throttle to f#%k you in the face-gas pedal). No CEL, no hardships, and even true to their cold-start-atomization feature — easy (but angry-sounding ) cold starts even on stock injectors.

Once again — for the hearing impaired 🦻 — NOT s#!tting on the tried-true wide-band tuning solutions for running E85 on your Mustang. This is seemingly the easiest solution from open-box to drive to the pump and FlexFueling your S550 Coyote Mustang.

There's two good threads for the GT350 guys on 6G, and this is for the 5.0 guys. From a 91/93-Tune to a 91/93-Tune + -this- — you -will- notice a difference.

Good product if you don't want the data logging, lap-top boggling, driveability fiddling mishuguna.

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[Grimreaper]

Im glad it works for u. Flipping bits in a register would be my preferred over turning a wrench but different strokes. Im sure you can't change a light bulb on a newer Porsche without having to reprogram something.

The logging is blown out of proportion by some. What ever hoops people jump through for flex tuning.. its not needed. The learning can be setup based on starting fuel and the window adjusted for larger range etc.. drive like a reasonable person for a few miles and its done. The f150 has been true flex fuel for iirc 12 years now and those settings drop into a mustang tune just fine. Exact tank composition is nice to know but not needed unless your going aggressive on the timing and skirting the limit on octane or using trims to adjust maft curve etc.. a physical sensor would be nice but even those drift with time.

 

[Porsche_Manny]

Im glad it works for u. Flipping bits in a register would be my preferred over turning a wrench but different strokes. Im sure you can't change a light bulb on a newer Porsche without having to reprogram something.

The logging is blown out of proportion by some. What ever hoops people jump through for flex tuning.. its not needed. The learning can be setup based on starting fuel and the window adjusted for larger range etc.. drive like a reasonable person for a few miles and its done. The f150 has been true flex fuel for iirc 12 years now and those settings drop into a mustang tune just fine. Exact tank composition is nice to know but not needed unless your going aggressive on the timing and skirting the limit on octane or using trims to adjust maft curve etc.. a physical sensor would be nice but even those drift with time.

That's fair — and truthfully, your solution would have also addressed one of my apprehensions with a -new- FlexFuel or E85 tune: running a tune different to the gas-tune I was happy with now.

I was only aware of the PBD, BAMA, VMP, etc-E85 tunes — and then discovered AFD. The E85 solution you stated earlier in the thread said you retain a pump-gas tune and just make adjustments for injector pulse-width and duty-cycle in the "bits".

I'll admit to being in short supply of the discipline and patience changing crucial 1s and 0s would necessitate (or so I'd expect it to be that hard anyway) — I'd be concerned about turning the car into a potato .

For me – I'm playing the game on hard all day. For me – this was playing it on easy.

But if anyone else was willing to pay or needed some reassurance that it wasn't snake oil – that was my intention.

 

[Porsche_Manny]

Gas prices went down a bit — aaaand may go back up again due to "NOPEC" and pissing contests between the West, the UAE, and Russia (heard it on the radio whatever).

Anybody between Miami and West Palm in SF interested in this kit, hit up Advanced Fuel Dynamics, and if you have any questions about installation — P.M. me!

I'm -NOT- on A.F.D.'s payroll, but I -AM- very happy with the last 22,000+ miles on E85 since getting their product.

 

[Zrussian13]

Gas prices went down a bit — aaaand may go back up again due to "NOPEC" and pissing contests between the West, the UAE, and Russia (heard it on the radio whatever).

Anybody between Miami and West Palm in SF interested in this kit, hit up Advanced Fuel Dynamics, and if you have any questions about installation — P.M. me!

I'm -NOT- on A.F.D.'s payroll, but I -AM- very happy with the last 22,000+ miles on E85 since getting their product.

How much peak timing is this set up getting you?

 

[Porsche_Manny]

How much peak timing is this set up getting you?

I don't get on here as often as I should — apologies for not replying sooner.

I can Data-Log if the thread is interested, but from what I've seen on Alejandro Flores's FlexFuel and E85 videos — the Copper Head stays happy at high-20s to low(LOW)-30s for efficient gains (using its Adaptive Octane Logic-function).

Is this the absolute most efficient-use of E85? The benefits of which come from dedicated -files adding timing Full-Send based on the stipulation that the driver checked E85-quality prior to "sending it"?

Likely no — a dedicated E85R-tune will get every last drop of E85's potential out of your setup... after buying a tuner... and downloading a base-file... and then doing multiple street-log pulls to get that dialed in, part-throttle and full-throttle.

Will an E85R, similarly-setup 5.0 walk mine? More than likely. But I wanted to give E85 a try, and this is the lazy/tired guy's solution. And it -works-.

Have a 2011-2017 Coyote (and they just released their Gen-3 kit at SEMA this year)? Is it your daily-driver but you want to try Ethanol? Need it to work as soon as you put it in? Give Gray at Advanced Fuel Dynamics a call or e-mail. I wasn't disappointed.

 

[Porsche_Manny]

I'd expect A.F.D.'s ProFlex Commander, piggy-backing on the more "enthusiastic" timing tables of a good 91-93 Oct Tune — would perform comparably to a Flex-Fuel ECU-Tune.

But, down-low in RPMs, as explained in the second video , I wouldn't expect it to out-perform a dedicated E85-tune. But that also comes with more owner-dedication.

 

[GAGT350]

Still no problems with the ProFlex Commander?

 

[rojizostang]

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[Porsche_Manny]

Still no problems with the ProFlex Commander?

Just over 30,000-miles with it. It has performed like nothing other than a quality item for me.

 

[Porsche_Manny]

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It's the quickest and easiest way to use E85 on the 5.0.

 

[GAGT350]

Just over 30,000-miles with it. It has performed like nothing other than a quality item for me.

Is the price for E85 constant with gasoline or is it pretty stable?

 

[Bluemustang]

Without data logs this thread doesn't mean much.

 

[Porsche_Manny]

Is the price for E85 constant with gasoline or is it pretty stable?

It can move with all fuel prices, but it seems to remain over a dollar away from whatever 93 is around me. Currently find it between $2.70 and $2.90 around me.

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