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I think $48,995 sounds about right, although less would be nice of course. I think the Electronics pack could be cheaper though. On the Bullitt, all the expensive stuff from Safe & Smart isn't included, no adaptive cruise, auto high beam, lane keeping system, automatic emergency braking (most expensive part) or the auto windshield wipers. Just the blind spot and memory seats. Nav is part of electronics pack but that already comes with 401A that these cars all have standard so I wouldn't factor that into the price. Shaker and BLIS are the only expensive parts, and on their own shouldn't be more than $1,495 I'd think combined, same price as Safe & Smart. Think swapping all the excluded Safe & Smart stuff for nav and a subwoofer and Ford might actually have a bigger margin on Electronics pack at $1,495 than they do on the Safe & Smart pack. I could see them charging $1,995 for it possibly but definitely not more than that.Stripper Bullitt: $48,995 or $49,995 (good luck finding one, will be as rare as base GT350s as dealers will check off option boxes)
Plus Options (if any):
Bullitt Electronics Package: $1995 - $2495 (has much of Smart & Safe plus upgraded stereo, I think $1995 but Ford could get a little greedy)
Magnaride: $1695
Recarro Seats: $1595
It maybe rare for a base one to be sitting at a dealership but that does not matter. Just go order one. No limit on production like the GT350 so you can get one build exactly how you want it
Folks should NOT have problem in finding them once initial rush wears off (both the 01 and 08 were limited but available as Ford actually produced and sold far less (1000+ less) then the 'limitations' (6500 for the 01 and 7700 for the 08/09) ...however most dealers will have long ordered and as buyers can legally walk away from custom orders most dealers may not be in tune with giving up allocation for a stripper car.
Ford is just not stating the actual limitation numbers at this time and I strongly doubt they will. This stuff is all done on program economics..and a business plan based upon X sales and Y price. The came up way short on sales in 01 and 08--thus going into 09 but still came up way short of the 08 projected 7700. Those kind of errors cost folks careers. Ford wants to walk the thin line of 'available' not scare off folks and garner bad press but still hand the 'limited edition' card to gather in attention and desire.
The 01 and 08/09 also had internal competition from the Cobra/GT500 that the 19 won't have. The GT350 will be gone...thus the internal speculation at Ford will be GTPP2 competition...which really ain't competition as most yahoos just look at the HP numbers...and for 2019 the Bullitt will be king. Yeah the GT500 is coming with more...but it will be pricey and a year away and the gotta have it now crowd won't wait as they flit from car to car...
And yeah there is an allocation system for them (Ford has allocation systems for even mere GT Mustangs). And yes, within Ford some cars may be ordered as a sold retail order and not impact allocation...on the cars in higher demand Ford does charge a dealerships allocation with the sold retail order.
FULLY understand. but...think about the charge for the GT350 Electronics pak. Ford can get greedy at times..... and that is what concerns me. While $1495 and $2495 are real possibilities...I'm still 'feeling' $1999.I've clearly been thinking about all this way too much :headbonk:
I'm still basing mine on the fact I was quoted 51K out the door for 401A, PP2, Shaker, Active Exhaust, Enhanced Security with 6% tax and tags.I think $48,995 sounds about right, although less would be nice of course. I think the Electronics pack could be cheaper though. On the Bullitt, all the expensive stuff from Safe & Smart isn't included, no adaptive cruise, auto high beam, lane keeping system, automatic emergency braking (most expensive part) or the auto windshield wipers. Just the blind spot and memory seats. Nav is part of electronics pack but that already comes with 401A that these cars all have standard so I wouldn't factor that into the price. Shaker and BLIS are the only expensive parts, and on their own shouldn't be more than $1,495 I'd think combined, same price as Safe & Smart. Think swapping all the excluded Safe & Smart stuff for nav and a subwoofer and Ford might actually have a bigger margin on Electronics pack at $1,495 than they do on the Safe & Smart pack. I could see them charging $1,995 for it possibly but definitely not more than that.
I've clearly been thinking about all this way too much :headbonk:
Got that right. :first:Dude, you have to make some sacrifices to be #1.
They wouldn't open the hood or trunk and when I mentioned Shaker they started getting vague, so could be something else. Also interesting that the usual Shaker logo on the bottom of the center stack by the power outlet was missing. This happened in the past on other cars so could be something, but might be meaningless too. I just can't see them offering all the stuff in Safe & Smart for $1,495 and then turn around and offer less in Electronics pack for more money, unless that upgraded stereo is something special. If the pack does end up being more, then I'd assume they wouldn't incorporate the full 401A package price into the Bullitt starting price since you don't get the nav on a base car.FULLY understand. but...think about the charge for the GT350 Electronics pak. Ford can get greedy at times..... and that is what concerns me. While $1495 and $2495 are real possibilities...I'm still 'feeling' $1999.
They didn't say "shaker"...do we know what the 'upgraded stereo is? What did you see????
This is exactly what I'm expecting as well.I'm still basing mine on the fact I was quoted 51K out the door for 401A, PP2, Shaker, Active Exhaust, Enhanced Security with 6% tax and tags.
I'm factoring in about $500 for special paint and $1k for the other stuff. So I'm anticipating about $52.5-53 for Bullitt, electronics, magnaride.
We know its Sony or B&O. The car at the show did NOT say Shaker, the speaker grills also to not have a logo....FULLY understand. but...think about the charge for the GT350 Electronics pak. Ford can get greedy at times..... and that is what concerns me. While $1495 and $2495 are real possibilities...I'm still 'feeling' $1999.
They didn't say "shaker"...do we know what the 'upgraded stereo is? What did you see????
Press that were at the the Bullitt event were told there was not going to be limited production on the upcoming Bullitt. I'm sure some dealers will still try to take advantage with the initial shipments, but if production is not limited it seems much more likely that buyers who have patience would be able to order/find a car to their liking without paying dealer markup or for a bunch of expensive add-ons they don't want.Houston-- sorry but they will be limited (you keep posting this crap that they are unlimited--which is totally untrue, your total lack of knowledge of Ford, their ordering and internal allocation process is beyond clear).
Folks should NOT have problem in finding them once initial rush wears off (both the 01 and 08 were limited but available as Ford actually produced and sold far less (1000+ less) then the 'limitations' (6500 for the 01 and 7700 for the 08/09) ...however most dealers will have long ordered and as buyers can legally walk away from custom orders most dealers may not be in tune with giving up allocation for a stripper car.
Ford is just not stating the actual limitation numbers at this time and I strongly doubt they will. This stuff is all done on program economics..and a business plan based upon X sales and Y price. The came up way short on sales in 01 and 08--thus going into 09 but still came up way short of the 08 projected 7700. Those kind of errors cost folks careers. Ford wants to walk the thin line of 'available' not scare off folks and garner bad press but still hand the 'limited edition' card to gather in attention and desire.
The 01 and 08/09 also had internal competition from the Cobra/GT500 that the 19 won't have. The GT350 will be gone...thus the internal speculation at Ford will be GTPP2 competition...which really ain't competition as most yahoos just look at the HP numbers...and for 2019 the Bullitt will be king. Yeah the GT500 is coming with more...but it will be pricey and a year away and the gotta have it now crowd won't wait as they flit from car to car...
And yeah there is an allocation system for them (Ford has allocation systems for even mere GT Mustangs). And yes, within Ford some cars may be ordered as a sold retail order and not impact allocation...on the cars in higher demand Ford does charge a dealerships allocation with the sold retail order.
Talked with the marketing person, here’s some tidbits:
GT350 intake manifold and intake
Throttle body 87 mm
PP1 based
MR optional
Digital gauges standard
Recaros optional
475 hp at least
Non-limited production
Numbered chassis
Green or black
Unique Active exhaust standard
So, someone much more in the know than I is misinformed. Does Non-Limited production mean you won't be able to walk into any Ford dealership and order a Bullitt exactly how you want it? What would the allocations for the Bullitt compare to says those for a GT350 or GT350 R? Those were limited production, correct? Maybe I am just confused which is not hard to do.Houston-- sorry but they will be limited (you keep posting this crap that they are unlimited--which is totally untrue, your total lack of knowledge of Ford, their ordering and internal allocation process is beyond clear).
Folks should NOT have problem in finding them once initial rush wears off (both the 01 and 08 were limited but available as Ford actually produced and sold far less (1000+ less) then the 'limitations' (6500 for the 01 and 7700 for the 08/09) ...however most dealers will have long ordered and as buyers can legally walk away from custom orders most dealers may not be in tune with giving up allocation for a stripper car.
Ford is just not stating the actual limitation numbers at this time and I strongly doubt they will. This stuff is all done on program economics..and a business plan based upon X sales and Y price. The came up way short on sales in 01 and 08--thus going into 09 but still came up way short of the 08 projected 7700. Those kind of errors cost folks careers. Ford wants to walk the thin line of 'available' not scare off folks and garner bad press but still hand the 'limited edition' card to gather in attention and desire.
The 01 and 08/09 also had internal competition from the Cobra/GT500 that the 19 won't have. The GT350 will be gone...thus the internal speculation at Ford will be GTPP2 competition...which really ain't competition as most yahoos just look at the HP numbers...and for 2019 the Bullitt will be king. Yeah the GT500 is coming with more...but it will be pricey and a year away and the gotta have it now crowd won't wait as they flit from car to car...
And yeah there is an allocation system for them (Ford has allocation systems for even mere GT Mustangs). And yes, within Ford some cars may be ordered as a sold retail order and not impact allocation...on the cars in higher demand Ford does charge a dealerships allocation with the sold retail order.
I think the Electronics pack could be cheaper though. On the Bullitt, all the expensive stuff from Safe & Smart isn't included, no adaptive cruise, auto high beam, lane keeping system, automatic emergency braking (most expensive part) or the auto windshield wipers. Just the blind spot and memory seats. Nav is part of electronics pack but that already comes with 401A that these cars all have standard so I wouldn't factor that into the price. Shaker and BLIS are the only expensive parts, and on their own shouldn't be more than $1,495 I'd think combined, same price as Safe & Smart.