2018+Lund+e85 = wheeee

[stanglife]

Just as much of a crock as suggesting an e85 tune means Ford was leaving HP on the table. How about we wait and see what happens instead of guessing?

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[Zelek]

E85 will probably be great due to the higher compression. Betting most people who go FI will run E85 for that reason alone.

 

[Kevin08]

Just as much of a crock as suggesting an e85 tune means Ford was leaving HP on the table. How about we wait and see what happens instead of guessing?

I'm not even talking about the E85 tune. Go look at all of the other 93 Octane tunes posted here. None of them are merely marginal increases.

 

[ForYourOwnGood]

I'm not even talking about the E85 tune. Go look at all of the other 93 Octane tunes posted here. None of them are merely marginal increases.

People were speculating that might be the case, but nobody knew if it was true or not. Its good that it turned out there is more left on the table, nobody is going to be upset over that.

 

[Zelek]

Most engines, unless it's a high dollar performance car with built internals, will always have room on the table. This is still a mass produced car and they need as little failure as possible.

 

[z31maniac]

Yeah, I am just recalling of those posts where the 18 haters were adamant that the 2018 would be hard/impossible to tune with the DI/PI. Yet pretty much every shop has gotten their first round of respective tunes applied pretty much immediately, and none of them (even the 93 octane tunes) are indicative of an engine that can't have much more squeezed out of it. What a crock.

That's Mustang fanbois that don't pay attention to anything but Miller Lite and mullets.

PI/DI cars have been being tuned in the aftermarket for years and years now.

 

[UAmach1]

That's Mustang fanbois that don't pay attention to anything but Miller Lite and mullets.

PI/DI cars have been being tuned in the aftermarket for years and years now.

Remember when those same people thought the DOHC was the downfall of the Mustang?

 

[wireeater]

Wait... People speculated things before there was actual data, like no way! Truly that's only a thing that happens with Mustangs though... :/ No wonder this forum is always cluttered with bickering... people can't ever just let shit go and have to keep rehashing it in other threads to take little jabs. Nobody in this thread was speculating it so why even bring it up...


What does the 6gen Camaro make with the similar setup? I'm more curious of how these two stack together now since there was a gap.

 

[z31maniac]

Remember when those same people thought the DOHC was the downfall of the Mustang?

Yep, I joined this forum because I'll be ordering a PP2 in the spring, and the complete lack of knowledge is really mind boggling. It's worse than the Subaru forums.......well at least just as bad.

Wait... People speculated things before there was actual data, like no way! Truly that's only a thing that happens with Mustangs though... :/ No wonder this forum is always cluttered with bickering... people can't ever just let shit go and have to keep rehashing it in other threads to take little jabs.

Saying a PI/DI car can't/will be difficult to tune isn't speculation, it's ignorance. As I mentioned there are other cars with the same fuel setups, or straight DI, that have been being tuned for years.

That was my joke that many Mustang fanbois need to understand there is a ton of stuff happening in the aftermarket, not just Mustangs.

 

[Zelek]

That's Mustang fanbois that don't pay attention to anything but Miller Lite and mullets.

PI/DI cars have been being tuned in the aftermarket for years and years now.

I had my FR-S tuned back in 2013 with PI/DI. Very significant gains were had and the tuning was interesting for sure with the way DI kicked in for the higher RPM's.

 

[z31maniac]

So basically it's a GT350 with low end torque and a flat torque curve.

Anyone know if there's any negatives to running e85?

Ensuring you use an E85 compliant oil and "possibly" shorter interchange intervals. This is what oil analysis is for.

Other than that, the only real risk is Ford seeing you've put a tune on the computer.

*incomes I put E10 in my lawnmower and it doesn't run comments*

 

[BmacIL]

Most engines, unless it's a high dollar performance car with built internals, will always have room on the table. This is still a mass produced car and they need as little failure as possible.

Honestly, it's very little to do with that, and much more to do with what needs to be done to certify the vehicle for emissions with EPA & CARB, along with meeting fuel economy targets. The "room on the table" is ~90% all this.

 

[marjen]

I thought the GT had pretty much same power with 87 vs 93? How come all these tests are on 93? What the HP look like on 87? I thought only the EB took a dive with 87.

 

[DarkestHour]

I thought the GT had pretty much same power with 87 vs 93? How come all these tests are on 93? What the HP look like on 87? I thought only the EB took a dive with 87.

Only people that lie to themselves about running 87 octane think the power is comparable to what 93 can achieve.

 

[Zelek]

Honestly, it's very little to do with that, and much more to do with what needs to be done to certify the vehicle for emissions with EPA & CARB, along with meeting fuel economy targets. The "room on the table" is ~90% all this.

Yeah, that makes sense.

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