McXtravert
Well-Known Member
i'm on 1800 miles since 5th September! great fun 
Sponsored
Sponsored
Leeroy
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- May 21, 2016
- Threads
- 22
- Messages
- 560
- Reaction score
- 106
- Location
- UK, North Yorks
- First Name
- Lee
- Vehicle(s)
- Mach1 FJG manual/'65 289 Coupe
That's interesting, a lot of the s197 owners seem to slag off the s550 (probably without ever driving one):shrug:. What is the reason? Refinement, responsiveness, performance, handling, breaking?
Manders Mustang
The Boss
- Joined
- Dec 3, 2015
- Threads
- 96
- Messages
- 12,999
- Reaction score
- 2,441
- Location
- Birmingham - United Kingdom
- First Name
- Steve
- Vehicle(s)
- 2016 Race Red Ecoboost
- Vehicle Showcase
- 1
Jealousy, because they dont have one, because it's a RHD....
- Joined
- Mar 3, 2015
- Threads
- 87
- Messages
- 3,871
- Reaction score
- 3,203
- Location
- Newbury, UK
- Vehicle(s)
- Mustang GT
Lots of reasons...
- not a "proper" Mustang (4 pot engine, RHD, IRS)
- not an import, easy to get hold of in UK
- lost its rarity on the roads
It's an interesting debate, could go on all day.
On some levels I agree with the folks who say a 4 pot should not be in a Mustang - it's a fair comment. Point is, it's a modern Mustang. Never going to be the same as the classic's or the 4th/5th gen imports - different beast entirely, but a Mustang all the same.
Defending the EB here - is it the Mustang Ford would have built 50 years ago if they could? Hell yes.
Spider
Well-Known Member
In the 60's in the days of the original Mustang there wasn't much interest in gas mileage or the environment I don't think it would have been that much interest. Bigger engine = more power...
When legislators started imposing restrictions in the 70's and with climbing fuel prices then EB technology if if was there way back then you're right then Hell Yes they would
Sponsored
- Joined
- Jun 5, 2015
- Threads
- 46
- Messages
- 2,251
- Reaction score
- 760
- Location
- Glasgow, Scotland
- Vehicle(s)
- Priscilla McMustang GT Ruby Team DS
- Banned
- #21
Just to add to the debate, sorry Enoch, back on topic soon....
If the Mustang had been available in RHD since 1964/5, how many people in the U.K. Would have a LHD one now? The answer is probably about two! There is always going to be a bit of the green eyed stuff about toward newer, technologically better, refined and more powerful updates. I've seen it on umpteen different forums.
I'm pretty sure that a sizeable majority of S197 owners would love to own one, in that majority, there'll be ones who admit it and ones that won't, so as not to upset their 'peer' group.
The Ecoboost v V8 in a Mustang is a completely different discussion, IMO. There'll be plethora of people who buy the EB for a plethora of reasons, initial cost, running costs, perceived higher maintenance costs etc. Then there's the demographic, age, look at Manders age group, just out of nappies and insurance cost is prohibited for the most part and misses out on the bigger, sexier modding game.
I'm pretty sure if you asked any EB owner, if the V8 cost the same, there'd be a tiny minority who would still say no (thinking Pete here as he could have easily had either), but the vast majority would pick the V8.
There's more to V8 choice other than just raw power, it's the go to iconic engine of choice, the uneven (except for flat plane) firing order, because that's how it works, the noise, the occasion, boyhood dreams..... I could go on, you get the drift.
Personally, if the Mustang came to Europe in EB form only, I would not have considered it in the slightest, please EB owners, don't be offended by this, thats just the way it is with me. I've had a couple of V6's and a Rotary, so the V8 itch was getting itchier, LHD was out, German? meh!! I would probably have saved a bit harder and bought the V8 F Type.
The EB is still a beautiful car, on the outside, but the heart of it doesn't do anything for me, in the same way a V10 Audi R8 doesn't (and I've driven one or two), but it's a beautiful machine.
Anyway, back on topic Enoch, just over 7000 miles, no real idea what my average overall is, nor do I care, same as you, the Muzzer will be getting less use over the next 4/5 months, it'll only be dry days and high days until spring
If the Mustang had been available in RHD since 1964/5, how many people in the U.K. Would have a LHD one now? The answer is probably about two! There is always going to be a bit of the green eyed stuff about toward newer, technologically better, refined and more powerful updates. I've seen it on umpteen different forums.
I'm pretty sure that a sizeable majority of S197 owners would love to own one, in that majority, there'll be ones who admit it and ones that won't, so as not to upset their 'peer' group.
The Ecoboost v V8 in a Mustang is a completely different discussion, IMO. There'll be plethora of people who buy the EB for a plethora of reasons, initial cost, running costs, perceived higher maintenance costs etc. Then there's the demographic, age, look at Manders age group, just out of nappies and insurance cost is prohibited for the most part and misses out on the bigger, sexier modding game.
I'm pretty sure if you asked any EB owner, if the V8 cost the same, there'd be a tiny minority who would still say no (thinking Pete here as he could have easily had either), but the vast majority would pick the V8.
There's more to V8 choice other than just raw power, it's the go to iconic engine of choice, the uneven (except for flat plane) firing order, because that's how it works, the noise, the occasion, boyhood dreams..... I could go on, you get the drift.
Personally, if the Mustang came to Europe in EB form only, I would not have considered it in the slightest, please EB owners, don't be offended by this, thats just the way it is with me. I've had a couple of V6's and a Rotary, so the V8 itch was getting itchier, LHD was out, German? meh!! I would probably have saved a bit harder and bought the V8 F Type.
The EB is still a beautiful car, on the outside, but the heart of it doesn't do anything for me, in the same way a V10 Audi R8 doesn't (and I've driven one or two), but it's a beautiful machine.
Anyway, back on topic Enoch, just over 7000 miles, no real idea what my average overall is, nor do I care, same as you, the Muzzer will be getting less use over the next 4/5 months, it'll only be dry days and high days until spring
SteveS
...Bon Scott Land...
- Joined
- Mar 17, 2015
- Threads
- 16
- Messages
- 4,549
- Reaction score
- 1,232
- Location
- Bon Scott Land
- First Name
- Steve
- Vehicle(s)
- Mustang GT Magnetic
The missus enjoyed the NC500 so much she is (/was) toying with a Mustang for her next car. She's thinking 550 EB vert however I was trying to push her in the direction of a later S197. Doubt she'd be able to get the hang of LHD however...getting in the right (left) side would be hard enough never mind driving it.
- Joined
- Jun 5, 2015
- Threads
- 46
- Messages
- 2,251
- Reaction score
- 760
- Location
- Glasgow, Scotland
- Vehicle(s)
- Priscilla McMustang GT Ruby Team DS
- Banned
- #23
Manders Mustang
The Boss
- Joined
- Dec 3, 2015
- Threads
- 96
- Messages
- 12,999
- Reaction score
- 2,441
- Location
- Birmingham - United Kingdom
- First Name
- Steve
- Vehicle(s)
- 2016 Race Red Ecoboost
- Vehicle Showcase
- 1
[MENTION=16323]Lone Survivor[/MENTION] if insurance for the V8 was the same as the EB i'd have forked out for the V8; 2k was nothing, but, an extra 2500 every year until i was 25 (4 insurance renewals) was a bit more of a sting.
- Joined
- Jun 5, 2015
- Threads
- 46
- Messages
- 2,251
- Reaction score
- 760
- Location
- Glasgow, Scotland
- Vehicle(s)
- Priscilla McMustang GT Ruby Team DS
- Banned
- #25
Yeah, that's what I said, insurance was prohibitive. I'm sure there are lots in the same boat. My opinion FWIW, shouldn't matter to anyone else, but the Mustang is, in V8, a real boyhood dream[MENTION=16323]Lone Survivor[/MENTION] if insurance for the V8 was the same as the EB i'd have forked out for the V8; 2k was nothing, but, an extra 2500 every year until i was 25 (4 insurance renewals) was a bit more of a sting.
Sponsored
OP
OP
Enoch
Well-Known Member
- Thread starter
- #26
Don't worry about getting back OT mate.....this is far more interestingJust to add to the debate, sorry Enoch, back on topic soon....
Some of my thoughts on the subject...
Always been a V8 man....had 4 TVR's, 1 Aston Martin, and 2 Jeeps including my current Hemi...(that the wife is slowly destroying)
But despite my love of the V8, I think hand on heart, that if the Mustang was only available to us in EB form, I'd have still bought one
Why? You may ask
... well basically, I outright refuse to get caught up in the German car market, I wouldn't allow a French car on my drive, I've done the Japanese hi reving stuff when I was a lot younger, so what does that leave??Italian...yes maybe.
I could certainly be tempted by a Maserati, or a V6 Alfa..::hail: or the other choice an XK8 or an Ftype....but all of these would have to be second hand.....whereas the EB would be new, and still a rare sight on our roads...;)It'd still have the long distance touring ability, it'd have the looks, and let's be honest, for today's roads, it's plenty fast enough....
So yes, if the V8 wasn't available to us, Ford would have still made a sale
:amen:
Eclipsar
Well-Known Member
I have to agree with [MENTION=16323]Lone Survivor[/MENTION], it had to be the V8 or not at all. I must admit I could not see what the next step would be after my Chrysler 300c which had the Hemi V8 in it and with Chrysler pulling out of the UK, meant I would have to go back to something German which I was not very keen on as I was looking for something a bit different, then along came Ford with the Mustang and life has never been the same since
Artill
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Aug 13, 2015
- Threads
- 5
- Messages
- 202
- Reaction score
- 46
- Location
- West Yorkshire
- Vehicle(s)
- Manual Guard GT convertible
i too agree with lone survivor, i wouldnt have a Mustang without the V8. Nor would i have bought one if they were only available with an auto box. I have no issue with anyone who wanted either the 4 pot, or the auto, or even both. i think its great we have the choice. But it did have to be RHD.
Leeroy
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- May 21, 2016
- Threads
- 22
- Messages
- 560
- Reaction score
- 106
- Location
- UK, North Yorks
- First Name
- Lee
- Vehicle(s)
- Mach1 FJG manual/'65 289 Coupe
Interesting debate I seem to have caused
Sorry, but I agree with what others have said - I wouldn't have considered a rhd mustang if it was only in 4-pot form. Same as I wouldn't entertain getting the cheaper 6-pot option when looking for my '65...V8 all the way, the best sound man has ever created:hail::love:
Fwiw, my original question to [MENTION=22082]goldengooner[/MENTION] was why did he get more of a buzz driving the s550 over the s197?
Sorry, but I agree with what others have said - I wouldn't have considered a rhd mustang if it was only in 4-pot form. Same as I wouldn't entertain getting the cheaper 6-pot option when looking for my '65...V8 all the way, the best sound man has ever created:hail::love:Fwiw, my original question to [MENTION=22082]goldengooner[/MENTION] was why did he get more of a buzz driving the s550 over the s197?
goldengooner
Well-Known Member
Sorry very very wrongJust to add to the debate, sorry Enoch, back on topic soon....
If the Mustang had been available in RHD since 1964/5, how many people in the U.K. Would have a LHD one now? The answer is probably about two!
Most LHD owners feel that am Amercian Muscle car should be LHD. it makes it special and something different
I know lots of dealers and tons of people on the MOCOGB site who say
"a real Mustang is a LHD one"
A Lot of true Mustang folk, prefer a LHD car
Sponsored
