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I've looked a a lot of cars on dealers' lots and I've tortured a lot of dealers with test rides. But they never have anything remotely spec'ed out the way I would want. I can't figure out how they come up with the options list of the cars they have in stock on their lots, including always the...

See, this is what sticks in my craw about the package. Those wheels are only $155 on the eB. And for $995 you get the Wheel and Stripe package that has really nice 19"s. As it is, they're sill only good for winter tires an you have to get some decent aftermarket rims anyway.

By the way, I often see posts suggesting that you can just put in a shorter gear for a few hundred bucks. I talked t the Ford dealer's service tech specialist today and I asked him about that. It's thousands of dollars he said, parts and labor. And you have to get the whole pumpkin, not just a gear.

Well, we got a lot of knives and a lot of forks so we got to cut something! :lol:

Oh, and it takes almost 180 pounds off the car, off the front of the car, from the 8. That's good, practically. I got a little carried away. It's a perspective, not an absolute. It's just what my train of thought was, and thinking out loud. I've had such a deuce of a time deciding. A nice...

Eeek! Joe, don't look now but you n me got to keep our eyes pealed for some 19" rims.

I've taken a lot of well, grief is the only way I can put it, for being indecisive particularly as concerns the eB and V6, though the V8 is in there too. The V6 is the best alternative when one gives profound thought to the question. I don't say this lightly. I had driven several examples of...

I thought you'd never ask: V6, DIB, 051A, 3.55, Spoiler Delete. I could be talked into the Ingot Silver or RR. But let's face it, DIB is bitch'n. Please see thread. "Why the V6 is the best choice."

Oops. I ordered a 'stang. Yes, that's right. I did. I got it, 'just so.' Just now, about an hour ago. From Bull Valley Ford in Woodstock (where they shot "Groundhog's Day). I have to say, this comment by Joe partly got me to make a decision. $300 below invoice and I keep the rebate...

Don't regret it. It's a great set-up the way it is. 3.31 and 3.55 aren't that different. 3.31 is probably better for the torque range of the eB, if you aren't gong t race.

Big time. Nice car!

I don't normally care about a spoiler either, but the more I look at it and think about it, I think I'd just as soon keep the spoiler on the V6 051A. It distinguishes an otherwise basic car with a feature that the eB and GT PPs don't have. Also, it's so minimalist that it's kind of cute, and it...

Not really. The eB PP has two braces that connect from the towers to the firewall rather than to each other.

If you didn't order your G6 exactly as you wanted it, were you able to find just what you were looking for, or did you willingly make compromises in cost and/or features to get the car that was at hand and available?

I have no idea what that means.

Hey, the GT is quicker than the eB! Who would a thunk?

They aren't a brand other than Ford.

A GTi looks lousy, like an econobox. Like a Rabbit. Like a VW. The're all over the place in Europe. All the Euro type mags love it but when the sheeple get one, they find it less rewarding. I just don't care for hatchbacks, I guess. A Mustang is a Mustang.

The only thing is that if I get a car, I'm not going to order a car, and there won't be a 051A w/spoiler delete on a dealer's lot. SO I would be stuck with it. As for the axle ratio, I hear where you're coming from and I appreciate your definite opinion. The 3.15 may be just right. But I think...

Here's what frosts my ass. To get the better 18" wheels with the V6 you have to get the 051A package for $995 and than you can EXCHANGE your 3.13 axle ratio for the 3.55 for ONLY $395 more. (You have to take the power seat and the spoiler nonsense). The EcoBoost comes with a 3.31 to begin...