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That basically helps settle the Magnetic vs. Race Red argument for myself. Do the non track packs and R's not have an external oil cooler?

Well I imagine a 1%-3% jump in MSRP for inflation, but I'm hoping different colors and just a magnaride option like the Corvette or Camaro. ADM will have calmed down because there will be unsold 2016's on dealer lots by the time 2017 goes live which I was told January 2016 by my dealer.

I'm still waiting for him to adopt me.

I think that looks more like a Channel Catfish than a Blue Catfish, Clark. :lol:

I have my name down at the dealer for a 2017 base. I can't justify $6500 just for MRC, which is really the only thing I would want. I hope there is a decent review of the base model, but I feel like everything that will be tested will be a tech or track pack.

So more than likely better than everything the Mustang currently does (minus visibility ha), plus looks are subjective so seems silly telling someone they made the wrong choice.

To be fair, it does look quite a bit different in person, much more than in pictures. Definitely not the drastic styling change the Mustang did.

Neither car looks good, but that's because I'm not a fan of yellow! Ironically, I did see two 2016 Camaro's on I-75 today, one black, one yellow. From the other side of the expressway, the yellow did look better than I thought.

These are the numbers I have: Camaro - 188.3" L x 74.7"W x 53.1" H Mustang - 188.3" L x 75.4"W x 54.4" H

They look awesome in person, way better than pictures tell. As far as looks right now GT350 > SS > Scat Pack > GT > * :headbonk: Some better pics from the event.

They are equal in length but the Camaro is narrower and lower than the current Mustang. Plus it's lighter. They are both good looking. The Mustang looks sleeker and sexier, the Camaro looks more angular and meaner. Looks are subjective anyways. :headbang:

Some of the best pics I've seen of a black 1SS yet!

ITT I learned the Mustang has the best footprint in the history of mass produced cars. Multiple comparisons be damned.

Werd. There's still a decent gap between the two in price. Over $5k.

Some people have more money than brains! :lol:

Word on the street is the Alpha platform is pretty terrible.

That window sticker looks like the one that was in the #TTxx car I rode in.

Is this for the entire state? Every dealer withing 60 miles here has the same 1 GT350 and 7 GT350R's.

I just don't see how you can confuse the two on the road. Completely different styles. And the numbers will speak for themselves once the embargo lifts.