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Well since it's smaller and lighter, reducing rotational mass and weight to achieve the same braking performance of the outgoing model?

Quick question, is there any word on how many allocations or build #'s for the 2017 model year?

This thread is great! Let me see if I can summarize: GM claims numerous times the LT models will be around 300lbs less and 200 for the SS: Lies AL O states the 2016 SS IS putting in faster laps than the outgoing 1LE even without MRC and NPP: Lies The comparable ATS-V runs great times...

I hear jimmies rustling.

What did you think of the Challenger? That's the only one I haven't test drove yet (well besides the 2016 Camaro). I feel like it has the best looks, but I'd be disappointed in the quality, parts, aftermarket, stopping, and cornering.

That's Garnet Red Tintcoat

I'm assuming GTPP since all the track tests I've seen done in MT and C&D were GTPP's. Terrible showing by the Mustang's. Especially the EB.

Go test drive both?

Good point, magazines will probably compare it with z28 times but do head to heads with loaded up 2SS's to make the price gap smaller. I for one can't wait for some magazine tests these next few months.

Since you're from Boston, I'm assuming you haven't seen dozens on the road yet.. Even Stevie Wonder can clearly tell it's not the same car when spotted on the road. :thumbsup:

I test drove a leftover 2015 5.0 today, nice car but I'm still waiting on a 2016 Camaro to make that objective call.. You're assuming sales trends continue, even after the sixth gen comes out. You're also making up Al O misleading on the weight numbers. I'm kind of pissed about the price...