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i have to disagree, anyone looking for an affordable track car, alot of vet owners, would go camaro because its superior performance, yea mustangs are way better for day to day living, but performance gm wins you can't argue it its been proven time and time again with the gen6

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it was a base one and i talked to them at the time they refused to budge, i went to 8 different dealers all the same story

so you don't think if gm only offered a camaro, no ctsv no vet, the camaro wouldn't sell way more

had a price for a 1le 40k otd , for a pp2 i couldn't get under 46k

my point was that gm offers more cars that competes with each other. you wanna say mustangs destroy in sales when thats all ford has to offer, with gm thats not the case. many different option lead to less sales of each. and honestly anyone who uses the sales of the mustang to give it a win is...

how can someone who owns a mustang be a troll on a mustang forum, is it cause I can admit when something better, you sound just like camaro owners when the terminator came out, oh my camaro would be faster if it had a blower to. fact is fact out of the box the camaro is superior in perfomance...

a fully loaded ss2 is right by a base corvette but there's no point in arguing, you have the greatest car ever built regardless off every single test done between them. they win cause they sell more so they're the best your right

while I agree with that, your building a car to compete with another you can't argue that, the top 3 all try to be the best. ford is lay too the party and not only bumped the price quite a bit but only just caught up with the other 2. pretty disappointing that couldn't put more effort in

huh truck and sport car are the same you huh thats weird, guess you don't understand the concept of that gm as a company competes with its self for sales of sports cars cause they offer 2 different types. sorry for doesnt do that so they only have the mustang for a v8 rearwheel car.

could also be because they have a car like the corvette that competes with the camaro sales, ford has nothing to compete with the mustang. add camaro And corvette sales I'm sure its closer. same goes for dodge with a charger and challenger. and every magazine and test between the two puts the...

yea they wanted a cheaper car with huge blowout sales to get rid of the outdated car. its kinda sad when you can't just admit something is better then what you have, perfect example is a Harley, ride like crap, no power, expensive but they sell, why cause its a Harley not cause its the better...

I owned a base by because I couldn't afford anything else for me 2014, i hated it, it was just sad on the inside. I then got a 15 gtpp with recaros like I always wanted. only complaint was the stupid calculator screen and all the problems i had with it

it does, it says it was the cheaper more comfortable option. with the price going up so much I'm curious to see if it affects sales

I know times could make a difference but I'm willing to bet the conditions for all their tests are similar and by that argument the 18gt was tested on a worse day so then the ss so that means the 1le could also turn better times making it even faster. bottom line ford had the benefit of see...

that same day thing annoys me, by that standard a Honda civic could be a gt350r around the track because they were never tested same day and driver, i know it's an extreme example, but given the numbers we have fun the same company with the same drivers the ss won but it was close

even compairing the gt pp1 to the regular ss the ss still put down better times, and i see people saying closed course, professional drive ideal conditions isn't what an average person will ever have so track times mean nothing, so why is everyone arguing that these are 11.8 cars when evan did...

both cost around 10k and pretty sure i read that the lt1 made its power on 91 octane while the 5.0 used 93, could make up that 5hp your using to claim the 5.0 makes more power, all the while ignoring that the lt1 makes way more torque. both have there plus side and both are great motors

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