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come to new jersey and see about that, my insurance actually went down 8 bucks a month with a 1le.

i didn't see vettes for me that cheap, and i own a 99 vette already. and my insurance would have gone up because I originally looked at them

agreed but I'm pretty sure any skill level driver will perform better in the 1le then gtpp1 on a track

used doesnt come with a full warranty, and pretty sure a regular c7 warranty doesn't cover stuff breaking on a track like a 1le. and personally preference i never buy cars like this used, there is no way to know the previous owner did to it or how they beat on it

if i couldn't adapt id want car b

cause of the price, a 1le was 40k out the door your not touching a new vette for that so noy check mate

depends, can I adapt to the vision issue, and since thats the argurment I'm 6'1 and have zero visability issues. yea it is a cockpit feel but vision is no issue for me. would i want to live with it on a daily driver, no, but that's not what it is. performance per dollar is where the camaro...

well since I'm concerned about performance thats what I look at which is exactly what iv been saying this while time, camaro wins performance mustang wins everyday living. but In a performance car obviously you look at performance

would i take a 400k car for free, hell yea who wouldn't, and why can't I compair a car i don't want. can i not be into cars and seeing how two competing cars stack up against each other cause i enjoy competition

huh that so better go look back at how much I loved my 2014 and how much a praised how great the 2015 was over the 14, your gonna try and call me out back it up. and I'm not talking bad about the mustang I love the new one and would have a pp2 if a ford dealer wanted to deal. my 15 was having...

it's funny how people throw the troll term around when people disagree with them. I own a 2015 mustang gt pp so. and for like the 1000s time I'm am looking at the performance aspect of these performance cars. so again looking at performance the camaro comes out on top in every trim

so can I say haha there it is when mustang fanboys only justifications for their car is it sells more and i need to fit golf clubs. dollar for dollar camaro offers more on every single level from base to gt350r.

and i question again how much of those mustang sales actually go to a private consumer, gm limits camaros to rental companies, pull the numbers for private consumers until then the they sell more cars means nothing. rental companies buy cheap cars not based on what a consumer would want

actually the mustang price for pp1 was a few grand more then 1le, and your truck and back seat issues are irrelevant, no kids and i have a truck. I buy a performance car for just that how it performs and the camaro wins. you wasn't comfort trunk space and it's fast there are options that blow...

haha yea so if i was to look at the vet vs ford gt. I have no interest in either from an owners aspect. looking at the their specs and cost the vet wins, you know you can compare cars with no intrest in owning. sorry you can't get that idea

and again your looking as a buyer all your points are if your looking you by a car. I said comparing the cars with no buying interest looking at what you get for your money the camaro wins

if you look at each car without wanting to buy either, based on options and performance per price the camaro is better. the car motor trend tested was a few grand more then the camaro which came with more options and performance therefore looking at each car without buying interest the camaro...

that's exactly what iv been saying, and yet again does not make it a better built car its more practical for everyday life thats it. what you get for your dollar the camaro offers more. I also find it comical when either brand loyalist talks about how the others interior is cheap, i think the...