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Who has a 10R80 10 speed auto they road race or HPDE? Longevity? Yr. Of manufacture?

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I’m truly trying to find out what the facts and realities are of the transmission choices versus 10R80 transmission.

How long did your Stock transmission last?
What did you do to keep it functioning?

Did you have it rebuilt with upgraded parts? If so what?

Did you buy a fully built transmission? From who?

Did you swap with a donor car?

Would you do it again?

What would you do differently?

Did you swap a manual in?
if so what?

Sequential?

Do use it as a daily driver also?

All experience and wisdom is appreciated.
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I have read and been told by a few people the 10R80 can be built to last.

I have NOT seen or heard of anyone getting a season, let alone many years and or 100k plus miles out of a built/upgraded 10 speed automatic that they use on road courses.

I have DOUBTS about this since the trash can is still aluminum.
The valve body I think, still uses low quality material and poor manufacturing.
Is the Torque converter truly improved for longevity?

I am hoping you PROVE ME WRONG.
Thank you.
 
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Look up Alessandro Sensoli here under flyhalf or on TrackMustangsOnline. He had more knowledge and experience with the 10R80 and making it last on a road course than anyone else I’ve seen.
 

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It has been about three years since I have taken my 2018 10 speed auto out on the track. However over a 5 year period the car has seen 4-6 track days per year. Over that period of time I learned a few things. 1) Never let the trans see more then 230deg F. 2) lots of fluid changes (After each track day) which means a PPE alum pan 3) Extra trans coolers are a must. 3) I ran a carpet drying fan directed in front of the added trans cooler, (just behind the lower grill), between sessions with the engine running for about 15-20 mins. This allowed the trans to cool down. I also Run a diff cooler that I leave on while I am cooling down the trans. Thus killing two birds with one stone. 4) I didn't run a track session in temps above 90 deg. (mostly due to I don't like the heat for myself, so I figured my car didn't like it either.
I did have to have a valve body replaced at about 10k miles due to harsh shifting into rev. I have never had a issue with the trans thus far outside of the value body. and it is still working great. (34K on the clock) I don't go out to try to be the fastest, I went out to have fun and enjoy the car. But that is not to say that I was slow.
 

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I’m truly trying to find out what the facts and realities are of the transmission choices versus 10R80 transmission.

How long did your Stock transmission last?
What did you do to keep it functioning?
Did you have it rebuilt with upgraded parts? If so what?
Did you buy a fully built transmission? From who?
Did you swap with a donor car?
Would you do it again?
What would you do differently?
Did you swap a manual in?
if so what?
Sequential?
Do use it as a daily driver also?

All experience and wisdom is appreciated.
My car was built Feb 2019. DD + track use (6-8 days per year). I don't have any trans problems or quirks. I'm lucky I guess.

Fully stock, no TSB's implemented yet.
Added second OEM cooler in series with primary one. Track temp runs ~208F.

My Ford service manager will allow me to check in my car before winter storage this year, and have the trans tech put in all TSB's and/or parts. All will be covered before the extended warranty expires May 2027.
 

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Extra truly does help guys. Also if i go back out I will consider removing the internal thermostat and install a in line one that opens about 20 degrees sooner.
 
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UPDATE
Ourisman Ford in manassas Virginia said my transmission leaked all its 13 QTs of ULV transmission fluid through the rear of my upgraded PPE transmission pan. They always say this. Another Ourisman LIE!

We would all notice 13 quarts of transmission fluid leaking onto our garage floor and driveway!

I think it is leaking out of the breather valve on the very top front of the transmission. Maybe when hot? Have you folks noticed this small leak on yours?

I fill to 4.5 on dipstick.

They also said my transmission was cooked. Another LIE!

I drove my car to another shop that has a lift and put it up the air.

They had not cleaned the bottom of the car like most people would to then check for a leak.
We checked the fluid level and it was what it should be. Ford and others say when hot the dipstick should read at or between 4-5.

AFTER Driving the car from the liars at Ourisman Ford the transmission seems to work like it’s supposed to.

I had it there for the ill functioning driver assist modes.
The car for no reason would loose all power/forward propulsion. No steering input and all wheels turning the same speed.

I had to unplug the Dyno Plug. I have full control now and the car can be drove with all driver assist OFF. But now I always have a bunch of errors and lights on.
They did nothing.

I truly believe that they never even diagnosed or looked at my car while it was at their dealer for a week or two.
I think they just let the car sit there and then called me and said it was done and ready to pick up and that they were not going to do anything or cover anything under warranty, due to their lie that my far better PPE transmission pan leaks out the rear. They used this same lie the first time they finally replaced the transmission under warranty.

EVERYTHING they said was a LIE.
 
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They also tried to get me to leave with no documentation!
I have learned this is another of dealers tricks!
The other is that they will not document correctly what your complaints/problems are with your vehicle.
This way when you try and get something fixed under warranty, they say you never had any problems, there is no documentation of your problems.
ALWAYS GET DOCUMENTATION AND READ IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS EXACTLY CORRECT.
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