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[JohnDoe]

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[Hack]

It seems that's what the ones on the left want.
Look at how they treat the police and law and order. We have law and order in this Country. This isn't the Congo. LOL You got garbage, I mean, "protestors" sitting in roadways and streets/highways blocking traffic. Because,........anarchy. All communist/anarchist scum. In other words, the misfits and cretins of society.
They want trespassers to walk freely as they wish into our Country and get all the free benefits while sending monies back to their homeland. That's disgusting!! While spitting on the American ground and American Flag that we love so much.
GTFO!

It's so funny because you are right - on one hand they seem to hate the police and want anarchy / mob rule - but on the other hand they want to empower the government to take our freedom away.

 

[Genxer]

It's so funny because you are right - on one hand they seem to hate the police and want anarchy / mob rule - but on the other hand they want to empower the government to take our freedom away.

Dems are indoctrinating the young and encouraging them to do all the mob and anarchist BS, because these kids are willing to do things that appear to be counter-cultural and rebellious. Once enough of them can vote (in theory), it accomplishes the "losing freedom" part because they will go straight to the socialist ideals they are being taught.

 

[LMS5400]

"mob and anarchist BS"

not really. Maybe like 12 people feel that way, but young people have been for the dems for decades now because they are more progressive and change with times. Also, young kinds don't like hearing about all these school shooting that the cons are doing exactly zero about.

 

[rick81721]

"mob and anarchist BS"

not really. Maybe like 12 people feel that way, but young people have been for the dems for decades now because they are more progressive and change with times. Also, young kinds don't like hearing about all these school shooting that the cons are doing exactly zero about.

Ever hear of Antifa?

What are libs doing about urban gun murders? Which, btw, outnumber "mass shooting" deaths by about 30 to 1.

 

[LMS5400]

Yes, I agree.

But Antifa is hardly a threat to anyone. At best, they break some windows with bats. The Antifa scare, like the immigration invasion scare is blow way out of proportion on the opinion side of fox news and alt right sites. Its a few kids here and there generally pissed off about fascism and are perhaps taking it a little too far with vandalism. I live in Berkeley and have yet to see 1 of them.

Recently in Portland, we saw them come out to counter proud boys in Portland - another misguided group intended to stoke hate and violence and toxic masculinity. proud boys should be protested but peacefully. You can't fight hate with hate, that just leads to killing.

Cities:

You have an environmental pressure in cities where they are generally more stressful and have far larger economical gaps -- this leads to a lot of positive and negative features. Among them is violence and so guns end up being used a lot. So you are right, liberals are most affected by gun violence because most of us are in large cities. I have been saying for year, Mass shootings drive up the emotion but average gun violence from pistols is the real threat, like you said, 30-1.

But we have to have the bar set here because its too easy to get a gun, bring it across the state line or county line and use it in a city. The other month I was at a festival right near Gilroy the day before that mass shooting with my 3 and 4 year old. The guy bought that AR-15 in Nevada. The bar has to be higher. I think anyone that want to own an automatic should be licensed and trained for it and pass some basic sanity class or something and probably be 21 or older, but that's my opinion. AR's should just be banned and if you don't agree with that just ask why do we ban SMG weapons? There is obvious precedent of lethally that we clearly already have instantiated. Why can't I buy a KRISS Vector with full auto? We already have a lethal threshold. It just needs to move a little.

I like guns, I play first person shooters and have for almost 20 years. For me, playing the games removes the need to own or shoot most weapons and its way safer. Most people are responsible but we gotta set the bar for the crazies. There are almost 400m of us now :O

 

[gixxersixxerman]

I saw Berkeley and didn’t really need to read farther but, in your own post you state hand guns are the problem but let’s ban AR’s... yup.... and “I like guns, I play first person shooters” hope the FPS game comes in handy if you need to defend you and your family, hope it’s not a digital copy at least then you can throw the disc at them.

Your second to last sentence is the problem with liberals, most are responsible but gotta set the bar for crazies.. why should your right, my right and everyone else’s (that’s legally able to own and carry a weapon) be taken away because of “the crazies” that’s the reason I own what I own. So when the bad guy kicks down the door I can defend my family. I pray I don’t need my AR, but I have it for because it’s my right. Also who’s to say that they ban AR’s and then they say... well the streets are safer, but it would be even safer if we ban semi automatic pistols. If you need to defend yourself use a revolver. And so on and so on.

Everyone has a right to their opinion and I respect yours but I don’t think you are right.

 

[LMS5400]

"problem with liberals"

maybe the problem is with stereotypes no?

I don't care about defending anyone in my home. If someone was gonna break in in the middle of the night intent on killing me, then I'm dead with or without a gun, It won't matter. I'm asleep!

2nd Amendment also asserts a well formed militia. You support that part too? How about well formed in 1. age, 2. training and 3. ensuring everyone with a gun is a good responsible owner while they have the gun(s). Do you have take issue with that? "Well formed" is the constitution. Secondly, your gun is mostly a false sense of security and if you were involved in an incident with another person you, me and everyone else stands a good change not having the gun loaded in hand and knowing where your enemy is. The problem is that first strike is usually last to die. That's why the Dayton and Gilroy shooters were able to kill 20 people in about 60 seconds right in front of police -- didnt even matter. AR is too lethal much like an SMG -- that was my point. And most Americans agree and that's why I'm betting it will be banned come 2021.

 

[rick81721]

Yes, I agree.

But Antifa is hardly a threat to anyone. At best, they break some windows with bats. The Antifa scare, like the immigration invasion scare is blow way out of proportion on the opinion side of fox news and alt right sites. Its a few kids here and there generally pissed off about fascism and are perhaps taking it a little too far with vandalism. I live in Berkeley and have yet to see 1 of them.

Recently in Portland, we saw them come out to counter proud boys in Portland - another misguided group intended to stoke hate and violence and toxic masculinity. proud boys should be protested but peacefully. You can't fight hate with hate, that just leads to killing.

Cities:

You have an environmental pressure in cities where they are generally more stressful and have far larger economical gaps -- this leads to a lot of positive and negative features. Among them is violence and so guns end up being used a lot. So you are right, liberals are most affected by gun violence because most of us are in large cities. I have been saying for year, Mass shootings drive up the emotion but average gun violence from pistols is the real threat, like you said, 30-1.

But we have to have the bar set here because its too easy to get a gun, bring it across the state line or county line and use it in a city. The other month I was at a festival right near Gilroy the day before that mass shooting with my 3 and 4 year old. The guy bought that AR-15 in Nevada. The bar has to be higher. I think anyone that want to own an automatic should be licensed and trained for it and pass some basic sanity class or something and probably be 21 or older, but that's my opinion. AR's should just be banned and if you don't agree with that just ask why do we ban SMG weapons? There is obvious precedent of lethally that we clearly already have instantiated. Why can't I buy a KRISS Vector with full auto? We already have a lethal threshold. It just needs to move a little.

I like guns, I play first person shooters and have for almost 20 years. For me, playing the games removes the need to own or shoot most weapons and its way safer. Most people are responsible but we gotta set the bar for the crazies. There are almost 400m of us now :O

You don't seem to know much about guns - but no surprise since you stated your only experience is in games.

ARs are just scary looking semi-auto rifles. Clinton's "assault rifle" ban was basically a joke - weapons that were not banned had little functional difference - and the ban had no effect. Actually banning all rifles of any kind would have similar lack of effectiveness in the gun violence problem, as only 4% of gun deaths are via rifles.

I'm all for more consistent gun control laws across states, and better measures to keep guns out if the hands of lunatics, but many of these mass shooters aren't deemed as psychotic until after they kill people.

 

[Little Guy]

Neither party cares about the middle class. Republicans want to give tax breaks to the rich so the money will trickle down to the lower classes. Democrats want to give the farm away to the lower class. Both parties think they are doing what’s best for this country. No matter who is in office, I just need to remember they love this country as much as I do.

Honestly, in the last 30 years, my life really hasn’t changed no matter which party was in office with the exception of George W. Bush (for the worse).

 

[LMS5400]

You don't seem to be reading what I'm writing man.

Answer my SMG question. How many deaths to SMG's cause each year and ask yourself why are they still banned?

 

[2018OFPP1?2]

"problem with liberals"

maybe the problem is with stereotypes no?

I don't care about defending anyone in my home. If someone was gonna break in in the middle of the night intent on killing me, then I'm dead with or without a gun, It won't matter. I'm asleep!

2nd Amendment also asserts a well formed militia. You support that part too? How about well formed in 1. age, 2. training and 3. ensuring everyone with a gun is a good responsible owner while they have the gun(s). Do you have take issue with that? "Well formed" is the constitution. Secondly, your gun is mostly a false sense of security and if you were involved in an incident with another person you, me and everyone else stands a good change not having the gun loaded in hand and knowing where your enemy is. The problem is that first strike is usually last to die. That's why the Dayton and Gilroy shooters were able to kill 20 people in about 60 seconds right in front of police -- didnt even matter. AR is too lethal much like an SMG -- that was my point. And most Americans agree and that's why I'm betting it will be banned come 2021.

And it's your perogative to passively die in your sleep, but you have no right to inflict that fate upon anyone who chooses to do otherwise.

You choose to do what's right for you, and give me the courtesy of doing the same. Make sense?

 

[gixxersixxerman]

The majority of people, if not damn near all, that discuss politics remind me of Steven Crowder change my mind segments. They act like they want to listen, but have no intention of actually having their mind changed. No argument is going to change your mind comparing a semi automatic rifle to a SMG.

also, simply safe has a decent alarm system that’s not that expensive. At least be warned when someone breaks in. Between my basic alarm system, 2 mini aussies and the advantage of me knowing my house I have a pretty good chance of defending myself and my loved ones even if it is 3AM and I’m asleep.

 

[LMS5400]

You choose to do what's right for you, and give me the courtesy of doing the same. Make sense?

Why do we force people to get drivers license?

 

[LMS5400]

The majority of people, if not damn near all, that discuss politics remind me of Steven Crowder change my mind segments. They act like they want to listen, but have no intention of actually having their mind changed. No argument is going to change your mind comparing a semi automatic rifle to a SMG.

also, simply safe has a decent alarm system that’s not that expensive. At least be warned when someone breaks in. Between my basic alarm system, 2 mini aussies and the advantage of me knowing my house I have a pretty good chance of defending myself and my loved ones even if it is 3AM and I’m asleep.

Glad you feel that way and I'm sure you feel more safe when criminals that break into your home don't have a gun because they can't buy one

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