Calculating the HP from known 12psi Of Boost

[olaosunt]

2.65 edelbrock TVS on crate 9.5 alluminator is rated at 785 hp/660 lb-ft torque.
3 year warranty .
May be another 20-40 hp for the extra 0.2 displacement on the predator at same boost but will probably lower for 5 year warranty -
I am predicting 755 hp like the easter egg.
https://www.edelbrock.com/supercharged-5-0l-coyote-crate-engine-with-tuner-46890.html

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[Darkane]

The only thing that’s missing (and it’s a big stat) is psi.

Also, the use of long tube headers isn’t indicated.

Nice find though.

 

[olaosunt]

Yeah
They don’t indicate the boost /pulley but it’s an 8 rib .
No mention of headers either or if its emissions compliant making those numbers .

 

[olaosunt]

I have decided I am going to put a 2.3 Edelbrock (got one of the last ones for an incredible price ) on my freshly built 5.2.




Same block as used in the predator but it’s a 12.1 compression motor/ same internal as in the 5.2 alluminator XS.
I figure with the higher compression motor I won’t need that much boost out of the 2.3 to make power .......and will have that low down kick the 2.3 TVS is known for .

 

[V00D00]

I have decided I am going to put a 2.3 Edelbrock (got one of the last ones for an incredible price ) on my freshly built 5.2.




Same block as used in the predator but it’s a 12.1 compression motor/ same internal as in the 5.2 alluminator XS.
I figure with the higher compression motor I won’t need that much boost out of the 2.3 to make power .......and will have that low down kick the 2.3 TVS is known for .

with good fuel, you'll probably come out ahead with the higher cr

 

[Gogoggansgo]

I have decided I am going to put a 2.3 Edelbrock (got one of the last ones for an incredible price ) on my freshly built 5.2.




Same block as used in the predator but it’s a 12.1 compression motor/ same internal as in the 5.2 alluminator XS.
I figure with the higher compression motor I won’t need that much boost out of the 2.3 to make power .......and will have that low down kick the 2.3 TVS is known for .

Ford won’t use 12:1 on this engine, the main issue is the quality of gas thus knock. It’s easier for the aftermarket because 1) warranty’s are short or not available 2) they know you’ll get a tune from a tuner and have it matched to your local gas. Ford can’t do either of those things

My guess is 10:5:1 or 11:1 maybe even 11:5:1 is they feel edgy

Right now with emissions and reliability i bet it’s 740-760hp IMO

 

[Darkane]

Ford won’t use 12:1 on this engine, the main issue is the quality of gas thus knock. It’s easier for the aftermarket because 1) warranty’s are short or not available 2) they know you’ll get a tune from a tuner and have it matched to your local gas. Ford can’t do either of those things

My guess is 10:5:1 or 11:1 maybe even 11:5:1 is they feel edgy

Right now with emissions and reliability i bet it’s 740-760hp IMO

See all my posts on page 6, and specifically #114.

It’s been released by ford already at 9.5:1.

No secret. It’s a port injection engine, high compression and forced induction don’t mix well.

 

[Hi-PO Stang]

I am pleased the Ford engineers are working to safely extract the most horsepower they can from the 5.2 GT500 engine. I am thinking we will all be surprised and very pleased. Lets not rush the great engineers working to extract more horsepower from the 5.2 block.

 

[Epiphany]

The engineers behind the bulk of the development of the 5.2L cross plane engine were done with their work a long time ago. The wait as of late has been more political than anything.

 

[Darkane]

The engineers behind the bulk of the development of the 5.2L cross plane engine were done with their work a long time ago. The wait as of late has been more political than anything.

Can you elaborate?

Does it have to do with EPA? The GM 3L diesel 2019 trucks were just canceled and everyone has to reorder to a 2020 model due to delays with the EPA.

 

[Epiphany]

Sorry, those details are above my pay scale. I only know that powertrain engineers hit their target numbers a long time ago. While its painful to hear Widmann state that his engineers are working hard to eek out all the power they can I don't doubt that they have continued working towards certain targets, be they emissions, durability, etc. There was mention elsewhere that cat durability (more specifically, long term emissions requirements) was an issue at elevated power levels. While that makes sense I struggle with it since Dodge doesn't seem to be having an issue getting it done.

I'll say this, I'm as interested in the internal struggles during development as much as I am with what will be supplied to the media and published for public consumption. If the ice cracks and the truth comes out, I think you'll learn that the new CEO and his management philosophy not only almost killed this one but had a negative impact on the program being expedited. With Nair and Hameedi gone this was like a ship lost at sea but I credit Widmann for getting everything back on course, albeit at a snails pace.

 

[Darkane]

Sorry, those details are above my pay scale. I only know that powertrain engineers hit their target numbers a long time ago. While its painful to hear Widmann state that his engineers are working hard to eek out all the power they can I don't doubt that they have continued working towards certain targets, be they emissions, durability, etc. There was mention elsewhere that cat durability (more specifically, long term emissions requirements) was an issue at elevated power levels. While that makes sense I struggle with it since Dodge doesn't seem to be having an issue getting it done.

I'll say this, I'm as interested in the internal struggles during development as much as I am with what will be supplied to the media and published for public consumption. If the ice cracks and the truth comes out, I think you'll learn that the new CEO and his management philosophy not only almost killed this one but had a negative impact on the program being expedited. With Nair and Hameedi gone this was like a ship lost at sea but I credit Widmann for getting everything back on course, albeit at a snails pace.

Makes sense, considering the power plant was based on the gen2 coyote and not the 3.

I’d love to be in the know with this project. The GT350, raptor, focus RS, and GT had the dream team with Nair, Hameedi and Pericak. 2014-16 was an amazing run for ford Performance

 

[Epiphany]

2014-16 was an amazing run for ford Performance

Indeed.

 

[SVTSNAKE355]

Makes sense, considering the power plant was based on the gen2 coyote and not the 3.

I’d love to be in the know with this project. The GT350, raptor, focus RS, and GT had the dream team with Nair, Hameedi and Pericak. 2014-16 was an amazing run for ford Performance

Yes, that team of guys were great. I just don't see those type of people there at FORD PERFORMANCE now. They need someone with the mindset of we are going to beat the competition not say we want to be competitive. That saying there is why there is no 850hp GT500

 

[nastang87xx]

I figure with the higher compression motor I won’t need that much boost out of the 2.3 to make power .......and will have that low down kick the 2.3 TVS is known for .

With the high compression it's going to be break your neck responsive too.

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