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That is definitely bad! I don't think it was an orbital, I think that would've burned the stripes versus marring them unless they just went over quickly.

I don't know what the other issues were, but if they could be fixed by ford I would've let them do it and just rip the stripes off. The white looks so good sans stripe.

Maybe you just didn't really want the car??
OP stated similar swirl marks on also on the paint just not as visible in pics on white paint. That is definitely an orbital. which means not Ford's QC issue.
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They're not going to be common issues I don't think. Probably one-offs to this instance.

1. Driver's side door seal had been torn such that it was separated from the nubs that go in to a hole and hold it against the sheet metal and it had to be ordered/replace. this is the seal that starts just under the glass and wraps down under the door near the rocker panel and back up again.
2. The right (facing the front of the car) carbon-fiber grill fang had a 4" long and deep abrasion on it and needed to be replaced. Looked like it may have taken an impact during transport. (The impact may have also caused the next issue.)
3. Also in the grill opening there was a 1/2" square area where the paint had been rubbed off by the grill down to the bare metal. It was a very inconspicuous area but needed to be fixed to prevent further corrosion and deterioration.
4. There was a foreign object in the paint on the hood near the passenger side windshield area. About the size of a grain of sand but raised and a rust color had already began to form around the object. I found this today as I inspected the stripes. There may have been other paint issues but I never got that far.

There was at least one other that I'm not recalling. I'll update if I remember.
Thank you. This is helpful. But honestly and I'd think you'd agree these don't seem to be Ford QC issues. These seem to be transportation and dealer caused issues.
 

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OP stated similar swirl marks on also on the paint just not as visible in pics on white paint. That is definitely an orbital. which means not Ford's QC issue.
I don't know. I don't know too many dealerships that bust out the rotary during PDI. I think that's using a really crappy and dirty wash media and rubbing really hard against the paint.

Either way, I agree with you that it is dealer and shipper caused.

It really is unreal these cars aren't coming wrapped from the factory. At least vinyl for crying out loud.
 

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I don't know. I don't know too many dealerships that bust out the rotary during PDI. I think that's using a really crappy and dirty wash media and rubbing really hard against the paint.

Either way, I agree with you that it is dealer and shipper caused.

It really is unreal these cars aren't coming wrapped from the factory. At least vinyl for crying out loud.
Hard to tell from pictures. Don't ask me how I know from first hand experience what orbital damage vs dirty cloth/sponge look like :D
 

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Why is it had for everyone to understand that the scratches on the stripes are from the installation? When the stripe is applied it is squeegeed to remove air bubbles. The squeegee is doing the scratches because they didn't leave the paper backing on it or after removing the paper backing they used the squeegee again to do a final pass. I've installed many vinyl graphics and stripes and I'm pretty sure that's the cause. They didn't do it correctly and probably did it without soapy water.
 

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Those do not look anything like squeegee marks. That's definitely micro marring from something like bad wash media or noob with a rotary or DA that has no idea what they are doing. Heck all they had to do was watch YouTube for 10 minutes and they could've avoided that garbage.
 

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Why is it had for everyone to understand that the scratches on the stripes are from the installation? When the stripe is applied it is squeegeed to remove air bubbles. The squeegee is doing the scratches because they didn't leave the paper backing on it or after removing the paper backing they used the squeegee again to do a final pass. I've installed many vinyl graphics and stripes and I'm pretty sure that's the cause. They didn't do it correctly and probably did it without soapy water.
Because your logic suggests all vinyl stripes would be marred bcos they are all applied using squeegees. And thats simply not the case...I have seen plenty vinyl job with no scratches including other Shelby cars and aftermarket jobs. And if caused by squeegees, how do you explain similar scratches on the paint as OP stated?
 

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Squeegees are not soft. They are ridged plastic. If the have a bad edge or dirt it's easy to scratch the paint and vinyl sticker. My family owns a body shop for over 45 years trust me. I didn't say all. I'm saying if it's not done properly. When my car finally comes in and if the stripe is scratched like his I'll remove them and install new ones myself. I'm not allowing the dealer to do anything to my car. Period.
 

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No way Ford QC let it ship that way. Odds are it was done at the dealership and if it wasn't shame on them for not catching it themselves and saying "we found some issue we want Ford to address before releasing the car".
 

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No way Ford QC let it ship that way. Odds are it was done at the dealership and if it wasn't shame on them for not catching it themselves and saying "we found some issue we want Ford to address before releasing the car".
They let other cars ship with body panels that look like they were aligned by a toddler, why not some scratches on some vinyl stripes after install??? Probably the 30th stripe job done by the same guy that day and they really just wanted to go home so they let that go on through...

Just saying, complacency is everywhere at every level and every position. We are only human. And say what you want about robots but humans program, monitor, and maintain those too...
 

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Sorry to hear about your car. Did you ask them not to wash/detail your car when they did the PDI? Are you on the search for another one now?
 

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The QC team has nothing to do with how many stripe the guy put on in a day. Are they going to catch everything no, are they going g to let clear issues go...no. If this was a plant issues I'd bet we would have already heard of similar issues. Just my two cents.
 
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All the issues I enumerated above, except the stripes and paint defect, were discovered by the dealership during their initial inspection and they quickly disclosed them to me when I arrived.

I have no issues with the deslership I worked with. They've been fair and honest with me from the time I made first contact with me. If I choose to buy Ford products in the future I would not hesitate to call them again.

I took delivery of the vehicle about 7PM last night. I noticed some of the marring in the light of the service area but it wasn't until I got it out in the daylight today that the full extent of the issue was noticeable. I drove down their this morning with "unwind" pretty much set in my mind but before I could even ask the GM offered to "fix it or unwind". I chose the latter largely because I just don't have the time to deal with taking the car back and forth to San Diego for the fixes and pray that they're done correctly.

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the dealership to friends and family. I don't know at what point the bad things happened to this car and I'm not going to speculate on that. To be honest, my frustration mainly lies with the fact that Ford seems to have a serious issue manufacturing, assembling, transporting and delivering a product that is defect free. I understand that it's Ford and not Mercedes Benz, and that yes, even those European manufacturers deliver a lemon now and again. But on a $58k car, truck or SUV, Ford needs to improve in that area IMO.
 
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Steve,
thanks for pointing out the issues. I called my sales guy and told him not to have the car detailed when it comes in.

Fred :ford:
 

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I'm a pretty picky person so I totally do not blame the OP at all for passing on this. I ordered the same color combo and if mine looks like that I'm not taking it either and demanding my deposit back. For 60k I want to be blown away not by the engine and performance alone, but the quality and manufacturing of the appearance too. It should look like a 60k car not an ecoboost or V6. I might bring someone else with me who knows everything to look for when I inspect it and will probably say no dealer wash at all, and definitely 93 gas! Haha


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