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I guess you guys don't really get satire... I should've used an emogie. Guess the corvette guys didn't get pitch.
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I guess you guys don't really get satire... I should've used an emogie. Guess the corvette guys didn't get pitch.
yeah you have to put like /end sarcasm

LOL

But I get it and LOL'd. :clap2:
 

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Just to make this all clear, Derpington is wrong here. Derp, the only reason your vehicle doesn't move when you torque a lug nut on is because you have an equal and opposite force acting on the car through the parking pawl. Also, I guarantee for the first few degrees of rotation of that nut your tire does spin until the pawl engages.. go put your car in neutral on a flat surface and apply that 100 ft-lbs. It will move. The only force needed to move the car on a flat surface is that which overcomes the rolling resistance of the car. It doesn't matter the weight of the car, you are only overcoming the rolling resistance. Same as if you are pushing on the bumper. It moves because of a force generated by your body.

Also, HP is a calculated value. A value created to interpret work being done by an engine based on torque and RPM, which are actual measurable values. You cant measure HP. You measure other things to calculate HP.

Your car accelerates because it is doing work, that means you are applying a force over a distance. That force comes solely from the torque generated at the wheel. At peak torque you are making 429 ftlbs, in first gear the torque at the wheel is 5205 ftlbs. That means the force being applied at the ground by the tire is 4767 lbf. That force being is what causes acceleration. Not HP. HP is the integral of Work, meaning it is just a calculation of how much work is being done in a given time.
You are definitely correct that torque can move a car.

Torque and engine speed combine to form HP.

You can increase torque to whatever value you want via gearing, but you will reduce speed by the same ratio. However, HP remains constant.

Which is more valuable: 100 ft-lbs @ 1000 RPM, or 100 ft-lbs @ 2000 RPM?

If you want to learn about a car's performance, you need to know work/time, or HP, or calculate torque at the wheels via the gearing.

-T
 
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That article is a good one. Probably written by Someone over on Camaro6 waiting for everyone to take the bait then start a thread over there about how crazy we are here.
 

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130mph in the 1/4 mile I think its a typo. If its not and its backed up...props man..

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You are definitely correct that torque can move a car.

Torque and engine speed combine to form HP.

You can increase torque to whatever value you want via gearing, but you will reduce speed by the same ratio. However, HP remains constant.

Which is more valuable: 100 ft-lbs @ 1000 RPM, or 100 ft-lbs @ 2000 RPM?

If you want to learn about a car's performance, you need to know work/time, or HP, or calculate torque at the wheels via the gearing.

-T
Well said.
 

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I'd expect 11.7-11.9s at 118-122 myself with a competent pilot.....
 

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If this road race car does 1/4 in under 12 @120ish Stock.
I say impressive, it would not take much to make it a low 11 second car.
For me thats cool, but I'm interested in what makes it a track car.
 

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This may have already been covered, but if Motortrend was able to put some times and numbers out there, why haven't we seen them from other publications?
 

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This may have already been covered, but if Motortrend was able to put some times and numbers out there, why haven't we seen them from other publications?
That's what I'm waiting for and I think the MT numbers are a bit slow. 12.4 would be 12.2 for the non R. Evan smith maybe 11.9 /12.1 . :thumbsup:
HTH results with the M4 ,Z/28 and even a C7 on the track. Still got another month before I'm driving one. 3 months to order a car ....never have done that before.
What's really crazy is Motorweek had two TV shows testing both GT 350's with no timed numbers only estimates. Never seen that before. They said ford doesn't have. 1/4 mile times because they say it's a track car. Porches and Ferraris always show timed acceleration numbers. Crazy it has taken this long. 2016 SS has been tested by most mags @ 12.3 and those cars are not out yet. I'd even consider one if it weren't for the stubby looks.
 
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That's what I'm waiting for and I think the MT numbers are a bit slow. 12.4 would be 12.2 for the non R. Evan smith maybe 11.9 /12.1 . :thumbsup:
HTH results with the M4 ,Z/28 and even a C7 on the track. Still got another month before I'm driving one. 3 months to order a car ....never have done that before.
What's really crazy is Motorweek had two TV shows testing both GT 350's with no timed numbers only estimates. Never seen that before. They said ford doesn't have. 1/4 mile times because they say it's a track car. Porches and Ferraris always show timed acceleration numbers. Crazy it has taken this long. 2016 SS has been tested by most mags @ 12.3 and those cars are not out yet. I'd even consider one if it weren't for the stubby looks.

Jamaal Hameedi stated that there is no embargo. The journalists are the ones dragging this out, not Ford. Ford usually doesn't publish their own ETs and acceleration tests, but the magazines normally don't drag it out like this either. I don't know what the deal is.
 

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Mag's haven't figured out what to tell their main auto advertisers, when the give an honest opinion of the 350, its going to make the competition ads in magazine seem silly LOL
 

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Jamaal Hameedi stated that there is no embargo. The journalists are the ones dragging this out, not Ford. Ford usually doesn't publish their own ETs and acceleration tests, but the magazines normally don't drag it out like this either. I don't know what the deal is.
I really dislike this falsehood that Ford doesn't publish performance specs. Ford has published their own ETs and acceleration tests. They did for the Boss 302 and GT500. This let the mags figure it out philosophy is a S550 era thing in North America. Even Ford Europe published GT performance numbers for the Euro spec Mustang. Same with the new Focus RS.
 

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We all want to see a number but if you have interest in this car a couple decimal points here or there won't mean much. If your so concerned about a quarter mile time your looking at the wrong car.
 

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I really dislike this falsehood that Ford doesn't publish performance specs. Ford has published their own ETs and acceleration tests. They did for the Boss 302 and GT500. This let the mags figure it out philosophy is a S550 era thing in North America. Even Ford Europe published GT performance numbers for the Euro spec Mustang. Same with the new Focus RS.

I haven't seen official Ford times for the Boss 302 or GT500. The only spec on the RS so far is 0-100kmh, which I'm sure is to showcase that it's finally AWD. What they do in Europe is going to be very different, I'm sure. The car is brand new there.
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