GT350 Supercharge or not?

[krt22]

Apples and Oranges.

That car was a cross-plane V8 and OHV. Supercharging (or any forced induction) does wonders for engines that don't breath as well naturally.

After you hear the Voodoo, you won't want to change it.

Seriously. Completely different animal and no way to draw comparisons to 50 year old engine technology.

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[08fordgt]

well thats enough proof for me. i was on the fence and now i'm completely sure that im not going to SC it. I will be putting a cai on it though with a tune. i'm upset bc i just looked at Lund Racing and their ghost cam tune requires an o/r exhaust which would be too loud with the GT350 so i guess i will have to do without it since i want to live in a nice neighborhood and don't want to wake the dead and my neighbors every time i crank it up. Im sure some ppl will SC theirs and make stupid amounts of power though. Thanks for all of the input guys.

 

[blondie]

i am looking forward to the fact its NA. Nowadays 526hp is not all that impressive i feel like the 1000hp mark is where the cool kids hang out but 526 NA feels like a badge to wear proudly. Just my take.


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[DrumReaper]

A 65-66 289 compared to a 15-16 Voodoo is comparing a 52 beetle to a 16 TDI Beetle. Not even close.

Look man, back then you needed more air to get across the simplistic, unmassaged technology to make more power. Even then it was still only a portion of what today's super chargers do in efficiency.

Normally aspirated engines today are the most efficient combustion air pumps in history... And even then, they are handicapped by emmissions crap that sucks away their efficiency. Superchargers today are just an add on for quick power... A true engine's worth is what it is capable of in efficiency without add ons.

 

[nastang87xx]

well thats enough proof for me. i was on the fence and now i'm completely sure that im not going to SC it. I will be putting a cai on it though with a tune. i'm upset bc i just looked at Lund Racing and their ghost cam tune requires an o/r exhaust which would be too loud with the GT350 so i guess i will have to do without it since i want to live in a nice neighborhood and don't want to wake the dead and my neighbors every time i crank it up. Im sure some ppl will SC theirs and make stupid amounts of power though. Thanks for all of the input guys.

Mild to wild switch.

My long tubes, no resonators, and no cats with stock mufflers on my S197 is maybe a tick louder than a stock GT500.

 

[wproctor411]

VW ' s issues are diesel related, not gasoline. Apples to oranges. And cats are always improving too. They're not like the shyte cans of the 80 ' s anymore.

Taking emissions off of any vehicle is an apples to apples comparison as far as your government is concerned. It's illegal.

 

[MadCow]

My advise is do what you want with your car. People need to get over it. There will absolutely be power adder GT350's. People should be proud that Ford made the car so affordable people are considering boost right out the gate. For the motor to handle the kinda RPM it does with reliability the short block is gotta be strong and the heads gotta flow crazy numbers. Takes a lot of valve spring pressure to turn that high too. All good for boost. And tuners use some cam phasing wizardry I don't fully understand to fiddle with the dynamic compression of these motors.

I am actually excited to see what parts of the VooDoo are compatible with the coyote and even the 4.6. The heads and rods. Maybe the oil pump if its upgraded.

 

[krt22]

well thats enough proof for me. i was on the fence and now i'm completely sure that im not going to SC it. I will be putting a cai on it though with a tune. i'm upset bc i just looked at Lund Racing and their ghost cam tune requires an o/r exhaust which would be too loud with the GT350 so i guess i will have to do without it since i want to live in a nice neighborhood and don't want to wake the dead and my neighbors every time i crank it up. Im sure some ppl will SC theirs and make stupid amounts of power though. Thanks for all of the input guys.

It already has a CAI from the factory

i am looking forward to the fact its NA. Nowadays 526hp is not all that impressive i feel like the 1000hp mark is where the cool kids hang out but 526 NA feels like a badge to wear proudly. Just my take.


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lol..1000hp is absolutely useless on the street. Absolutely useless on the track without AWD, really sticky rubber, and a near- pro level driver. It only has a place in drag racing with slicks

 

[nastang87xx]

Taking emissions off of any vehicle is an apples to apples comparison as far as your government is concerned. It's illegal.

Who said any thing about taking off emissions controls systems? We were talking about squeaking out every last ounce of NA power as the Voodoo sits and them the thought that VW's current emissions problems with diesel powerplants are a direct relation to how tunable the gasoline Voodoo engine is. How does that make any sense?

 

[wproctor411]

My advise is do what you want with your car. People need to get over it. There will absolutely be power adder GT350's. People should be proud that Ford made the car so affordable people are considering boost right out the gate. For the motor to handle the kinda RPM it does with reliability the short block is gotta be strong and the heads gotta flow crazy numbers. Takes a lot of valve spring pressure to turn that high too. All good for boost. And tuners use some cam phasing wizardry I don't fully understand to fiddle with the dynamic compression of these motors.

I am actually excited to see what parts of the VooDoo are compatible with the coyote and even the 4.6. The heads and rods. Maybe the oil pump if its upgraded.

I'm buying this car for the track but...

This motor is going to love a little positive pressure as long as the right tuner get's the job done right, like a person with the name Lund.

I pretty much quit drag racing after joining a local track club but I still want to see someone willing to boost one, 1100HP, and ripping the Texas Mile at 220+ mph. With 1100 HP and 8,000 rpms it would be sickening to say the least. I think 1100 HP is the new "big" number for normal cars. The Hell Cat pretty much opened up Pandora's Box when they hit the market at 707.

People are crazy these days so I wouldn't expect anything less. 526HP +15psi should set the car right around 1100HP (crank power)

 

[blondie]

It already has a CAI from the factory







lol..1000hp is absolutely useless on the street. Absolutely useless on the track without AWD, really sticky rubber, and a near- pro level driver. It only has a place in drag racing with slicks

oh i agree! i am not interested in that but just as a number to brag about i mean. which is what people are mainly after with FI. how often does FI make the car handle better?


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[nastang87xx]

I am actually excited to see what parts of the VooDoo are compatible with the coyote and even the 4.6. The heads and rods. Maybe the oil pump if its upgraded.

Considering that the 4.6L is a 3v and the Voodoo is a 4v, you might want to rethink you logic there about the heads. And since the crank assembly is a far fetch from even the Coyote, the chances of rods finding their way into a 4.6 or even a Coyote are few and far between. Besides, there's quality proven aftermarket offerings for 4.6L and Coyote upgrades for bottom ends, heads, and valvetrain. Why would you want to frankenstein an engine together when there's already proven systems that will work without guessing? One of the most fundamental issues with the 4.6L just for starters: the Voodoo is a TIVCT engine. The 4.6L is not. Uses the old VCT system.

 

[ForTehNguyen]

should I buy a 911 GT3 and turbo it?

 

[nastang87xx]

should I buy a 911 GT3 and turbo it?

Weaksauce. Prius V and add another 9V to it.

 

[nastang87xx]

lol..1000hp is absolutely useless on the street. Absolutely useless on the track without AWD, really sticky rubber, and a near- pro level driver. It only has a place in drag racing with slicks

The most powerful car I've driven was in the mid 700 ' s to the wheels and I pretty much evacuated my bowels instantly.

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