Steeda Subframe Brace VS BMR Cradle Lockout Kit

[RomanB]

So I had my first experience with Wheel hop Friday night at the strip. First two passes had wheel hop but it wasn't to bad. 3rd Run the Mustang turned into The Jack Rabbit and I thought I lost my rear end at the 60' mark. I was using launch control and launched exactly the same way as the first two passes, it jumped so hard that the throttle completely closed and power died for a second.

Any body have experience with either the Steeda subframe brace or the BMR cradle lockout? BMRs kit looks to be pretty rock solid and their videos look like it works pretty dam well by itself.

Has anyone used the Steeda Subframe brace on its own? Does it get rid of vertical and horizontal movement of the cradle like the BMR kit?

Thanks in advance guys!

BTW ran a 13.3 at 109 in 100degree AZ heat with a Base GT. Not bad

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[Jmeo]

Funny you ask. I actually installed the entire arsenal of Steeda parts on my car last week. Diff inserts, subframe support bushings, subframe braces, subframe centering sleeves, progressive sport springs, front and rear sway bars.

I am a huge Steeda fan. Have been for many years. I was so dead set to cure the wheel hop I decided to buy from both companies. I heard about the CB005 from a fellow member and gave Kelly at BMR a shout. I have never in my 30 years of working on my cars bought a BMR part and I wasn't sure I was going to use it but I wanted it on hand just incase.

After the Steeda install my test drive resulted in there still being some wheel hop. It was definitely better but not completely gone.

I decided to remove the Steeda braces, centering sleeves and subframe bushing supports because the CB005 replaces all of these. The wheel hop was definitely without a doubt better for me. Not 100% gone but probably 90% gone and now livable in my opinion.

I then decided to remove the diff bushing inserts because for me I couldn't live with the drivetrain shuttering and banging I got from them. Let me make this clear, it was not the fault of the inserts. They without a doubt were just doing their job. I just have decided bushings of any kind are not for me as they all will bring NVH to the driveline. I just do not want to ruin the factory ride, it's just not worth it to me.

I stress this is "my" experience and it may not be the same for you. I absolutely love Steeda products and their customer support. They have been great to me and I will continue to be a lifetime Steeda customer.

On the same token I thought it fair to post my experience and support for BMR as I feel they have made a top notch, high quality product and deserve praise for their accomplishment. Kelly at BMR is just awesome and I am glad I have started a relationship with BMR and look forward to using them AND Steeda in the future.

Hope this helps,

Jaime


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[BMR Tech]

Thanks for the great words and feedback Jaime, you've been a pleasure to work with sir. Talk to ya tomorrow.

OP, either should work great for you. You will see me saying ours is better, and you will see other companies claiming theirs are better....and same for the customers.

What I can say is, our CB005 kit has had nothing but excellent reviews and feedback, and many people have swapped to the CB005 kit from other kits available, with positive results.

Happy modding!

 

[RomanB]

Thanks JMEO, I too am looking for something that is still livable. I installed steedas trans mount bushing and although it felt great, it made my Stang rattle shake and drone. Pulled it out the next day. I hate NVH and Unless anyone else chimes in, I am sold on BMR's lockout kit and vertical links

 

[mustang_guy]

For the price and effectivenes id say bmrs stuff is hard to beat. Ive used bmr on quite a few previous stangs. Always was very pleased. After some research on delrin vs metal on yellowbullet, i think ill be going full bmr instead what i prevously was looking at. You got me bmr. I found a place that would send it with free shipping. Glad i was misinformed yesterday. Caused me to do some further digging. Ill be using it all.

Bmr jacking rail
Bmr cradle lockout kit
Bmr rear cradle bushing kit, delrin
Bmr billet differential bushings
Bmr toe rods
Bmr vertical link

 

[RomanB]

Lethal Performance^

 

[pinero61]

I bought both, and will try to use them in unison. However, if I am unable to make them work, I will test both to decide which to run.

 

[RomanB]

You cant use both the BMR lockout kit and the Steeda brace. They share a mounting location

 

[pinero61]

You cant use both the BMR lockout kit and the Steeda brace. They share a mounting location

Yes, I know.

Looking at the manner in which they are mounted, it seems like I can modify them to work.

They share a mounting point on the frame where the steeds brace uses the small collar on two struts. Some trimming to this collar should allow fitment.

 

[RomanB]

if you make it work... should be pretty dam rock solid

 

[pinero61]

I won't know for sure until they are in hand with the car in the air though.

 

[mustang_guy]

Lethal Performance^

Yup. Exactly where i was going to get it.

 

[Nanashii]

Here are my thoughts on this question.

Full disclosure, I have all of Steeda's IRS upgrades as well as their differential bushing inserts, linear springs, sway bars, sway bar mounts and G-Trak brace. In addition, I've ordered Viking shocks and sway bar end links from BMR. As you can see in the pictures below, the wheel hop on my car is gone. In addition to that, the car is an absolute joy to drive both on the back roads as well as in a straight line. This is what an IRS setup should drive like.





In my opinion, the Steeda subframe braces alone will not be enough to eliminate the wheel hop. The BMR CB005 is kind of a 4-in-1 kit as it reduces vertical and lateral movement, centers the subframe and mounts to both the subframe and the chassis. To achieve that with Steeda, you need the IRS bushing support system, subframe alignment kit and the subframe braces. Combined, the bushing support system and subframe alignment kit cost about $20 more than the CB005 kit. Add the subframe braces and the Steeda setup costs double the BMR kit.

After studying both BMR and Steeda's solutions, I felt that the combination of Steeda's individual components will perform better than BMR's CB005 kit. Specifically, I like the design of Steeda's rear subframe bushing inserts and the fact that their subframe alignment kit also supports the rear subframe mounts against lateral movement. The subframe braces then tie everything together at three mounting points for even more support.

I am very happy with the results. That being said, I know there are forum members out there who are just as happy with BMR's solutions. I am sure I will be buying additional parts from both companies down the road. Both Steeda and BMR are reputable companies with quality products and excellent customer service and we are lucky to have them in this community.

 

[jbailer]

I think Nanashii said it well, you can't really compare the Steeda subframe brace to the BMR cradle lockout as the Steeda brace is one part of the solution. I certainly can't compare the 2 because I chose 1 and am completely satisfied with the Steeda solution. I have no wheel hop or NVH at all and the car is an absolute blast to drive!

I think it's fantastic that we have the choice between 2 of the best to choose from and they both provide excellent support to our community. I think you'll get people that chose a vendor's solution for whatever reason and they will stand firmly behind their decision. Personally I think you can't go wrong with either.

 

[Jmeo]

I think Nanashii said it well, you can't really compare the Steeda subframe brace to the BMR cradle lockout as the Steeda brace is one part of the solution. I certainly can't compare the 2 because I chose 1 and am completely satisfied with the Steeda solution. I have no wheel hop or NVH at all and the car is an absolute blast to drive!

I think it's fantastic that we have the choice between 2 of the best to choose from and they both provide excellent support to our community. I think you'll get people that chose a vendor's solution for whatever reason and they will stand firmly behind their decision. Personally I think you can't go wrong with either.

Yah, I find it interesting how all our cars are different. As I have stated, the entire Steeda catalog did not cure my wheel hop. I then switched to CB005 and the rest Steeda and it is "close" to gone.

And then I know someone who has zero where hop with only a few of the pieces. Just can't figure out the rhyme or reason but it sure is great to have options.

Jaime


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