My number came up on the waiting list... but ADM

[Belobog]

The 2015s and 2016s are exactly the same. They just decided that they will call the first 137 off the line 2015 for marketing purposes. The first 2016 will roll off the line right after the last 2015. It's better to just think of them all as 2016s for production number purposes.

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[PP0001]

The 2015s and 2016s are exactly the same. They just decided that they will call the first 137 off the line 2015 for marketing purposes. The first 2016 will roll off the line right after the last 2015. It's better to just think of them all as 2016s for production number purposes.

Agreed and the only difference that has been indicated to me from Ford for the 2015's versus the 2016's will possibly be a unique serialized dash plaque, car cover and window sticker celebrating 50 years of the Shelby GT350.

Still unofficial at this point.

 

[DrumReaper]

The Ford guys in interviews have all stated that the GT350 production numbers will be less than the S197 GT500 and a bit more than the Boss 302s. That is on record. What isn't on record, as far as I know, is how many years they will produce the car. But the only credible info that I've seen is that it will only be 2 years (excluding the 2015's) This comes from the GT350 program agreement that the dealers signed up for in order to sell the 350. I'm pretty sure it only specified 2016 and 2017. Also, I remember someone posting a while back that Voodoo production was for 2 years.

I have no idea where the speculation about 5-year production runs is coming from. Maybe it will happen, but I've seen no indication other than guys on forums that that's the case.

This is very close to what I have heard as well.

 

[sticker]

Not stamping my feet at all but when people make statements such as "sticker" about 15,000 to 20,000 GT350 units to be built over the next few years along with your additional comments suggesting that he is correct then provide all of us with some feedback as to how one or both of you came up with these numbers?

As expected now you are discounting the 2015 model year due to homologation requirements!! :lol:That is really funny!

You don't think that after Ford built the initial 137 units for the 2015 model year in July that in the next 5 months they could not have sold another 2000 to 4000 units as a 2015 model year especially if they met their homologation requirements?

Based on your reasoning they stopped production of the 2015's in the middle of the year just so they could go racing?

Remember it was not me who made these statements based on pure speculation and without any facts to back them up with.

BTW, I can tell you that I am not a spoiled child by any means and am probably close enough in age to be your father. I just happen to have a great passion for the Ford automobile and in particular the Mustang model. It all started back in the 60's when I bought my first Ford vehicle which was a '67 Cougar and then moved over to the Mustang.

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You really need to understand that Ford can build more $60,000 Mustangs than the public would ever consume. It is not how many will be available. It is how many will be purchased. The consumer is driving the bus. Let go of the "limited production" crap as it only pertains to how many they can sell. Ford will build them as long as they sell and as many as they can sell. Some of you appear to believe that Ford is in the business of building this offering in small #s to provide enthusiasts with a collectable item, NOT!

 

[DrumReaper]

You really need to understand that Ford can build more $60,000 Mustangs than the public would ever consume. It is not how many will be available. It is how many will be purchased. The consumer is driving the bus. Let go of the "limited production" crap as it only pertains to how many they can sell. Ford will build them as long as they sell and as many as they can sell. Some of you appear to believe that Ford is in the business of building this offering in small #s to provide enthusiasts with a collectable item, NOT!

Lol... That there is absolutely funny and asinine.

 

[sticker]

Lol... That there is absolutely funny and asinine.

So those of us here who have watched this scenario play itself out half a dozen times before with the same result have it all wrong? Interesting that you find common sense and an expectation based on historical reality to be "funny and asinine".

 

[CANTWN4LSN]

...Ford will build them as long as they sell and as many as they can sell...

Would guess most for MY 2016 that remain are going to be dealer ordered and priced to what the market will bear. Fortunate to get one for MSRP but as many others here began last August to hunt for dealers. But if I hadn't been lucky and they don't sit on lots waiting for someone to come by and offer only MSRP (which I think unlikely for the 2016 and 2017 MYs with the waiting lists I know of) then I would have to make a decision of paying some ADM or believing your quote and waiting it out. Not doubting your knowledge but only asking is it your feeling based on experience, general business practices, etc or do you have hard factual data or quotable insider info to back it up?

 

[Poppacapp]

I appreciate your comments but where do you get your production figures from?

Of course you know that there will be a total of only 137 GT350's built for the 2015 model year?

Having said that are you suggesting that we can expect 8,000 to 10,000 Shelby GT350's to be built each year for 2016 and 2017?

Unless you can show me something from Ford providing this kind of projected production volumes you cannot come close to be taken seriously and your comments are totally out of line?

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I have a feeling the GT350 will not be as limited as thought. If Ford can make money on them, they will continue to produce them. I am sure a GT500 variant is on the way also. I think I'll wait to see what that entails, and skip a GT350.

 

[DrumReaper]

So those of us here who have watched this scenario play itself out half a dozen times before with the same result have it all wrong? Interesting that you find common sense and an expectation based on historical reality to be "funny and asinine".

Man it was like you stuck it to the man in your post... Comical at best. You have no insight or evidence to base your guesstimate from, yet attest a man's statement who does have insight and evidence.

So you can relate to the 2007 Shelby fiasco, we all can... But if you can remember, Ford limited the Boss 302s in 12/13 and likely could've kept selling more had they made them. That kills your theory.

I didn't see any common sense in your response... I did see speculation without insight though, and if you call that common sense, then yes I find it helluva funny.

 

[Belobog]

So you can relate to the 2007 Shelby fiasco, we all can... But if you can remember, Ford limited the Boss 302s in 12/13 and likely could've kept selling more had they made them. That kills your theory.

Ford stated right from the start that they had a target production limit on Boss 302s. They have not many any similar statements for the GT350.

 

[sticker]

Man it was like you stuck it to the man in your post... Comical at best. You have no insight or evidence to base your guesstimate from, yet attest a man's statement who does have insight and evidence.

So you can relate to the 2007 Shelby fiasco, we all can... But if you can remember, Ford limited the Boss 302s in 12/13 and likely could've kept selling more had they made them. That kills your theory.

I didn't see any common sense in your response... I did see speculation without insight though, and if you call that common sense, then yes I find it helluva funny.

Anybody that wanted a Boss got one my friend, no big deal at all. 2 years of that one was more than enough just as it was with the Mach1s and Terminators.



You are more than welcome to swallow all the hype and nonsense from the retailers which is obviously concocted to extract as much cash as possible from the wallets of those potential buyers who can be convinced that there won't be enough to go around. The GT350 appears to be a very desirable car but lets face the fact that it is a huge retreat in the horsepower department which takes a healthy segment of the potential buyers pools out of the equation.

The 2007 Gt500 was hardly a "fiasco". The original projection was 3K-5K units, Thousands more than originally expected were built and sold, much to the chagrin of those who were suckered into believing they had made some type of an investment by the avaricious retailers. The 11,000 units sold made it quite a success and hardly a fiasco by any standards. Some of you guys really need to take a deep breath and employ some simple common sense on this one. Enjoy.

 

[Hack]

I could see it going either way. There is currently a large performance gap between the GT and the GT350. I believe there is also head room in the Voodoo performance such that the output can be increased - at least some increase is possible IMO.

The Boss was 444 HP and the current GT is 435 HP. That's not a lot of difference. That might be part of the reason why the Boss went away. The GT500 always had a huge HP difference over the regular GT, so that vehicle was never in danger of getting over taken in performance by the GT. Ford could extend the GT500 as long as there were buyers.

I think it's possible the GT350 could be produced beyond 2017 due to those reasons. I'm not going to say we know it will, though.

 

[Spa2k]

I'm going to wait for the official word from Ford. Then I'll know what's going on...

 

[DrumReaper]

Anybody that wanted a Boss got one my friend, no big deal at all. 2 years of that one was more than enough just as it was with the Mach1s and Terminators.



You are more than welcome to swallow all the hype and nonsense from the retailers which is obviously concocted to extract as much cash as possible from the wallets of those potential buyers who can be convinced that there won't be enough to go around. The GT350 appears to be a very desirable car but lets face the fact that it is a huge retreat in the horsepower department which takes a healthy segment of the potential buyers pools out of the equation.

The 2007 Gt500 was hardly a "fiasco". The original projection was 3K-5K units, Thousands more than originally expected were built and sold, much to the chagrin of those who were suckered into believing they had made some type of an investment by the avaricious retailers. The 11,000 units sold made it quite a success and hardly a fiasco by any standards. Some of you guys really need to take a deep breath and employ some simple common sense on this one. Enjoy.

Ok, I don't think you understand well what I'm saying... and that's ok. But here I go again with more clarity, hopefully.

The B302's were limited from the outset, as stated above. Everyone that wanted a B302 did not get a B302, as that is a preposterous statement with no exact way to measure the outcome.

I have heard multiple times that this car is projected to follow along the lines of B302 production, i.e., R cars following LS302 numbers and non-R cars the B302. That would mean production is about 5K units/year for 2 years. Is there some ambiguity in that statement... possibly. That means Ford could extend the car past 2017, and got to 2039.3959. It's up to Jim Owens and Ford, really.

What I also know is that dealers are already getting allocations for the 2016/17 model years. That tells anyone with common sense that Ford has projected producing the car for 2 years, at the minimum, and that is close to the B302 production commitment. Those are facts. You speak from mere myth.

Now, as for the "fiasco"... I said the "GT500 fiasco" meaning that a bunch of people paid ADMs and were told it would be a low-production unit when in actuality, they produced a crowd of them. I never called the car nor the production of the car a fiasco... Smh.:doh:

Tell me this... how many R cars do you know are being produced for 2016? As many as Ford can sell? Doubt it... but since you seem to have the clairvoyance, tell me how many GT350R units Ford will make for 2016.

 

[StangMan04]

All these posts about production numbers are speculations.

Pretty much all the people buying/ordering a GT350/R are preaching these cars will be super rare.

All the people who are not are saying these cars will have be mass produced.

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