The debate is that the EcoBoost cars sound like crap even with the most expensive aftermarket exhaust, but with a bigger turbo it sounds awesome.Please forgive my ignorance, but what debate, and what is the "BT" car?
Adam told me he could do a custom flange for my Tial QRJ so I'm sure he can make one for hksSo no external wastegate? Any way to add a HKS SSQV 4 instead of the turbosmart bov?
Offboost you are still getting 38+ MPG on the highway. Show me a v6 or v8 that can pull that out its ass. ;) Plus everyone has a GT out here. I like being different.Forgive my ignore, but why would someone spend $4k on parts and labor to get an EB into GT territory? I understand turbo cars have very different dynamics and are lighter, but when you're running that much boost I'd bet any fuel economy advantages are out the window.
I don't mean to troll, I'm geniunely curious.
I think the guys that do this likely couldn't afford the gt upfront or bought the ecoboost and decided it wasn't fast enough after buying it so they mod accordingly. Me personally I'd take that 4k and put it down on a gt if speed was a priority. I bought the ecoboost fully aware I was getting a pretty fast car with great mpg. I knew it wasn't going to be a hot rod or drag car. It's a perfect cruising automobile that can be pretty fast when needed.Forgive my ignore, but why would someone spend $4k on parts and labor to get an EB into GT territory? I understand turbo cars have very different dynamics and are lighter, but when you're running that much boost I'd bet any fuel economy advantages are out the window.
I don't mean to troll, I'm geniunely curious.
Because when you aren't in boost it's still a 4 cylinder, which will get better gas mileage than a V8. When I spec'd out both cars there was a $7k price difference between Ecoboost and GT. $4k < $7k...?Forgive my ignore, but why would someone spend $4k on parts and labor to get an EB into GT territory? I understand turbo cars have very different dynamics and are lighter, but when you're running that much boost I'd bet any fuel economy advantages are out the window.
I don't mean to troll, I'm geniunely curious.
Didn't you mean, DANGER ZONNNNNNEEEEE!!!Forgive my ignore, but why would someone spend $4k on parts and labor to get an EB into GT territory? I understand turbo cars have very different dynamics and are lighter, but when you're running that much boost I'd bet any fuel economy advantages are out the window.
I don't mean to troll, I'm geniunely curious.
Your fuel economy typically goes up on daily driving with larger turbo builds. Spooling later in the powerband means you are using less fuel on a day to day basis as you aren't in boost as often, until you stomp on it. As soon as you stomp on it, you are definitely throwing your fuel economy advantage out of the window.Forgive my ignore, but why would someone spend $4k on parts and labor to get an EB into GT territory? I understand turbo cars have very different dynamics and are lighter, but when you're running that much boost I'd bet any fuel economy advantages are out the window.
I don't mean to troll, I'm geniunely curious.
That's what I was most excited about, external dump :(I can do an HKS but I highly recommend against it. HKS BOV's aren't that great to be honest with you. The Turbosmart Vee-port that we included with our kit is much better. And yes, external wastegate is included in the kit. Ours is the only turbo kit that utilizes the best boost control method on the market, an external wastegate.
We recirculate it because to be honest with you, externally dumped sounds terrible on these cars. Picture riding your lawn mower down the street, then the muffler falls off. That bad.
Maybe on a future race kit we will do an external dump as the manifold design will be much different. That is much longer down the road.That's what I was most excited about, external dump :(
I just really like the HKS sound compared to the vee port but yeah I agree with you on that one. That's disappointing that externally dumping has such a terrible sound on these cars, guess no gun shots and flames for this one :(
Well it's actually great you guys tested it to see how it would sound like because I would be way more upset firing it up then hearing a failing lawn mower I have to get on that e-30 tune soon, just gotta find where I could take 3rd gear to redline in this packed city.Maybe on a future race kit we will do an external dump as the manifold design will be much different. That is much longer down the road.