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That S550 is a gutted GT for PWC. I am still trying to find out if Dean or Shelby is developing the PWC car.
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That is all I was given. The owner allowed the pic, appearently it was okay to share... I'm surprised they took pics of the tube work.

I am checking the PWC and CTSC cage designs to see if any of them match that secondary A-Pillar tube. I'm not sure CTSC uses one BUT, I'm also not sure what a Pro-'15 cage looks like.


That's all you were "given"? "Given"....really???

C'mon man....quit trying to inflate your ego and you're appearance to others, by intimating that this is some kind of super secret photo from one of your inside connections that only you have access to.

That photo is from Dean Martin...of his car.....he posted on his Facebook page last night for EVERYONE to see!

Get a grip and embrace reality!
 

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The constant attempts to belittle thePill was somewhat entertaining at first, but now it's getting sad.

I'm all for a civil debate, but once discussion goes from providing facts and information in order to refute something, to simply trying to smear someone every time they post, it ruins everything.
 

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The constant attempts to belittle thePill was somewhat entertaining at first, but now it's getting sad.

I'm all for a civil debate, but once discussion goes from providing facts and information in order to refute something, to simply trying to smear someone every time they post, it ruins everything.
I wouldn't call that smearing...

I'm not on facebook so I don't know, but if that is a public image it is dishonest for ThePill to pretend that it was given to him when it was open for everyone to see.
 

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I wouldn't call that smearing...

I'm not on facebook so I don't know, but if that is a public image it is dishonest for ThePill to pretend that it was given to him when it was open for everyone to see.
It could be a public image, but thePill could also not be on facebook, so he had no way of receiving it except through personal contacts. We dont know. Neither does Saber, but he chose to pick that one comment from several recent ones thepill has posted in an attempt to smear thePills character.
 

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The constant attempts to belittle thePill was somewhat entertaining at first, but now it's getting sad.

I'm all for a civil debate, but once discussion goes from providing facts and information in order to refute something, to simply trying to smear someone every time they post, it ruins everything.
You know what it's called when a writer pens something that isn't there's and yet gives no credit to the actual writer and makes it look like it is there's?
 

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You know what it's called when a writer pens something that isn't there's and yet gives no credit to the actual writer and makes it look like it is there's?
Except thePill didn't claim he took the picture, that it was given to him, which it may well have been.

So your coy, cute little hint of plagiarism falls flat.
 
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I said it was "from a famous driver" and not Tony Stark.

If this particular man shares a picture openly and it's his car, that's all I can tell you. He didn't provide any info other than "2015" and that's it.

It is going to PWC and presents another question. Where is Shelby's GT350R-S going or are they even working on one. If this is the case, Ford believes that a Coyote GT is enough to handle a z28.

Please DO NOT rush his FB page and harass him about garbage. He's not going to give you details about a car.

Most of my info changes hands via FB PM and Email.

I gave "spies" on here specific details to NOT USE M6G and contact me via FB or Email. Not a secret, social media makes it easy.

Do you actually think I'm running to the pay phone down the street or receiving a package? I took a private plane to Tony Starks and he handed me this picture?

It's not deceiving...

Picture Shared
Picture posted
Info gathered
Questions not answered

Your in the same boat I am on this. I think my initial guess work as to what it actually was should have been key that I wasn't there.





You guys are pathetic...
 

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Sounds like he got the picture from Facebook to me lol

I have no need to argue with pill about this subject as I don't follow stuff like this but as with all his conversations, it seems to follow the same rhythm he always uses when he posts.

On a side note, if he did get that picture from FB and wasn't given it specifically then sabres point is accurate. It is dishonest to say you are given something when you just found it. Just another way for the pill to keep a lid on his "sources"

Edit: lol apparently Facebook changed what you can actually see publicly with out being logged in. Probably changed that a while ago haha moot point really since he has Facebook
 
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I think you guys are looking for any reason to discredit all the speculation I put here. Judging from the silence on the issue, I would say the ATS-V news has hit hard. It wasn't suppose to hit hard if what I figured was true. You guys had advanced warnings... Yet dispute the findings still.

I absolutely did not want to post a link from Dean's FB page. Even the picture I copied here was from my own page. I never hounded him nor did I get anything else. That was it.

Awww, it was dishonest... Boo hoo... thePill was right about the z28 being overpriced sh!t and the ATS-V weight. Don't like it? Don't click... Unless you can't get enough of me, which I can understand. I think your here the see thePill, not because you like cars.

Send me a friends request on FB, I have pictures for you...
 

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I think you guys are looking for any reason to discredit all the speculation I put here. Judging from the silence on the issue, I would say the ATS-V news has hit hard. It wasn't suppose to hit hard if what I figured was true. You guys had advanced warnings... Yet dispute the findings still.

I absolutely did not want to post a link from Dean's FB page. Even the picture I copied here was from my own page. I never hounded him nor did I get anything else. That was it.

Awww, it was dishonest... Boo hoo... thePill was right about the z28 being overpriced sh!t and the ATS-V weight. Don't like it? Don't click... Unless you can't get enough of me, which I can understand. I think your here the see thePill, not because you like cars.

Send me a friends request on FB, I have pictures for you...
The pill, if you are dishonest it potentially discredits any good information you have. You are not very open when it comes to your sources. If the sources are public, you don't have to post a link but at least say so and don't make it seem like only you could know due to any inside sources you may have.

Being dishonest is not a "boohoo" kind of thing it's a pretty important part of a person's credibility, actually it's kinda the most important lol
 

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Except thePill didn't claim he took the picture, that it was given to him, which it may well have been.

So your coy, cute little hint of plagiarism falls flat.
He claimed it was given to him, then said it was a 350r almost done. If the person who had it gave it to him, why would he say it was a 350r? In another thread he was making it look like the 350r was coming and that was a built one. He was set straight by topnotch, so now he is back peddling as none of it was true. you tell me what that is.:confused:
 
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The pill, if you are dishonest it potentially discredits any good information you have. You are not very open when it comes to your sources. If the sources are public, you don't have to post a link but at least say so and don't make it seem like only you could know due to any inside sources you may have.

Being dishonest is not a "boohoo" kind of thing it's a pretty important part of a person's credibility, actually it's kinda the most important lol
That would be true, only if the info I posted in the past hasn't pop up true over the last few months.

If it's wrong then it's wrong, if it already came true it's kinda difficult to discredit that info.

I will never out my sources, I wish TN wouldn't of did that because this is a high traffic topic and it could potentially funnel a lot of nonsense to a Pro driver. If he wants to join the nonsense he can become a member here. It was provided by a famous driver, it should have stopped at that. TN did actually set it straight. Since the picture didn't reveal anything but a Spec cage and I wasn't sure if it was okay to pass that along. I figured since he put it on social media, it was free to distribute but still didn't want to bother him. I never asked him a single question, I began trying to identify the cage. I would have never assumed it was a GT given that Dean is in PWC and the Z/28.R is there. I never thought that Ford would be so bold as to put a GT against a z28 on the public stage. I also figured it was R&D done from an existing R-C to a R-S for the SCCA, unless Dean was going to CTSC. It only seemed reasonable... That is not the case...

Do you think I broke into Ford's patent office and snapped the Prototype Cobra Emblems myself? All Double-Oh Kevin... I was in Intel at one time but not to that extent.


Boo hooing is boo hooing and that is all that you are doing. Just because a few of you in here was soooooooooo sure I was wrong on every single topic that just popped up, one after another. then what? YOu get salty because you don't have the b@lls to tell me I was right. Get over it, having a vendetta against a forum poster because his topics of discussion are seemingly correct is kinda lame. I can't imagine a world where people feel the need to control what another person says, whether it comes true or not.

It's time to get personal because that is all we have left to argue. I have done this for 5 years, I deal with this on a monthly basis. Whining in public only pleases me. Although, it gets kinda sad watching a few of you wallow in misery, not being able to resist this "Pill".


Do all you can to shuffle those "Lies" to the rear of the conversation. We haven't been discussing any of the original argument. That was won days ago... Now I'm forced to hear your pouting, one after another, lined up to the door.

We are no longer talking about the Motorsport side, the OEM side is laughable, The Ring has been shut down now especially after Chevy cheated the watch and the ATS-V just hit 3800lbs.

That is a lot to deal with in the last 10 days...


In the next couple of days, we will hopefully see my prices were correct, lap times and performance and MY info (confirmed). I put specific info up for a reason, TO BE ANALYZED. I try to get pretty specific, like I did with the GT's weight. We didn't get a 3500lbs GT, EU got it then added the PP and Premium stuff standard. If you think making a punctuation error discovery or that a sense of humor is lost on you is going to bother me, think again. I make specific statements knowing that they could possibly be wrong, these are BRAND NEW CARS I am speculating about here. I gather from sources just as everyone else.
 
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That isn't what you portray tho. You type like everything you say is fact and you have the inside scoop on everything. Then if anyone questions it or ask for proof, you can't answer. You give tons of numbers, so I'm sure some may be right. So does that mean you had the inside scoop, or a good guess.
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