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Ok here we go lol,been looking at cai and was looking at the airaid.Did some serious research and neither of their cai require a tune,the enclosed one or the race one.I know jlt requires a tune but i dont think its a hp thing as much as the mass air meter is moved and the tube is a little bigger.From what ive read both make about the same hp,but i dont know why they would make one that has to have a tune and one that does not require a tune.The guy from airaid said u can still tune for the race intake but not required,dont know what to make of that what do u guys think.Same with headers arh made 30 hp with no tune,bet it would not change much with a tune.I really would like to hear Grimaces,s opinion on this.
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A tune will be required when the airflow surpasses what the maf can read.

No "no tune" intake will make as much hp as a intake tuned. No matter who makes it.

An airaid makes more by simply taking the lid off. Let alone tuning.


Who made 30hp with long tubes and no tune?

I made 30 more with headers, tuned.

Magical Dyno and headers or it was tuned
 

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You will not be surpassing the airflow of what the slot style maf can read in an n/a car, I dont know where people come up with this stuff.

The only reason why some intakes require a tune is simply cause they altered the maf metering tube size from stock and now it just needs to be recalibrated to the new maf tube size.

You can put a 7 inch tube where the maf goes, it will not make any more power it will just need to be calibrated for that size tube. People forget that it all goes into the tiny stock t.b. that is not a restriction on a bolt on car.

I've noticed on here though that some people will argue about anything even if they just dont know, so with that being said believe what you want and good luck.
 

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go with the jlt, we have both, but the jlt will make more power
 
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A tune will be required when the airflow surpasses what the maf can read.

No "no tune" intake will make as much hp as a intake tuned. No matter who makes it.

An airaid makes more by simply taking the lid off. Let alone tuning.


Who made 30hp with long tubes and no tune?

I made 30 more with headers, tuned.

Magical Dyno and headers or it was tuned
Guard 5.0 and the guy from arh confirmed it,i will find what thread its in,i think its in the one Wheir beef test different headers but let me look first.It was 30 hp with no tune.
 

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You will not be surpassing the airflow of what the slot style maf can read in an n/a car, I dont know where people come up with this stuff.

The only reason why some intakes require a tune is simply cause they altered the maf metering tube size from stock and now it just needs to be recalibrated to the new maf tube size.

You can put a 7 inch tube where the maf goes, it will not make any more power it will just need to be calibrated for that size tube. People forget that it all goes into the tiny stock t.b. that is not a restriction on a bolt on car.

I've noticed on here though that some people will argue about anything even if they just dont know, so with that being said believe what you want and good luck.
Thats exactly what i thought,i know the mass will adjust a pretty good bit.Thanks for the info dude.The only time ive really seen mass air meters be recalibrated to account for more air is when a turbo or sc was installed and the limits of the mass meter wheir reached
 
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go with the jlt, we have both, but the jlt will make more power
Thanks beef,i really dont like the enclosed box but i heard airraid has a race thats open like the jlt.I will decide by tomorrow.
 

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No matter how many people post up dyno graphs, time slips and countless 3rd party testing.

There is still guys who say a larger then stock intake doesn't matter. Aren't we past this ? LOL

If you have zero intention of tuning your vehicle go with a stock sized intake. If you want to make the most power you can and are tuning, go with JLT.
 
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No matter how many people post up dyno graphs, time slips and countless 3rd party testing.

There is still guys who say a larger then stock intake doesn't matter. Aren't we past this ? LOL

If you have zero intention of tuning your vehicle go with a stock sized intake. If you want to make the most power you can and are tuning, go with JLT.
My car is already tuned,and i have nothing against jlt their a great product.My point is n/a theirs only so much air going through any of these intakes.Will one make 1 or2 hp then the other one possibly!!!!.Its just my opinion theirs only so much hp ur going to get out of any of the good cai.From a technicians point i know the tune is only because of the placement of the mass air meter and tube size,ur not going to pass the limits of the stock mass air meter
 

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The only reason why some intakes require a tune is simply cause they altered the maf metering tube size from stock and now it just needs to be recalibrated to the new maf tube size.

This. The MAF needs to be calibrated to the size of the housing it sits in. A larger housing will reduce velocity thus skewing the MAF readings.
 

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How does JLT stack up against Steeda CAI?
both are good quality intakes and both needs to be calibrated

our goto is the jlt, you have a variety of options including plastic, painted, hydro dipped

jay and the guys at jlt are great at what they do
 

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My car is already tuned,and i have nothing against jlt their a great product.My point is n/a theirs only so much air going through any of these intakes.Will one make 1 or2 hp then the other one possibly!!!!.Its just my opinion theirs only so much hp ur going to get out of any of the good cai.From a technicians point i know the tune is only because of the placement of the mass air meter and tube size,ur not going to pass the limits of the stock mass air meter
With you being tuned and the price of the two intakes being the same. The decision factor comes down to if you want a enclosed box or a larger tube/filter.

Things to keep in mind, yes our MAF housing is larger thus requiring a tune. However our filter is significant larger then the size of most of the competition, more surface area to pull from allows the filter to be less of a restriction in the system.

As your mod list grows to headers, intake manifold swap, cams? You won't have to worry about if your stock sized intake tube is a restriction. No one likes to buy parts twice :)

You'll find a majority of the racers in the coyote stock, factory stock classes run our intake. I got an email last week from Charlie Rankin (Black Betty Foxbody) a guy who borrowed a JLT intake from a competitor to make a pass and picked up 2mph over the C&L that was on it. Fastest the car has ever been.
 

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