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As I'm getting a better feel for this car, I want to call out two more things I appreciate. A few weeks ago I mentioned the engine - link here

1 - Steering. This is a really good application of (electric?) steering. The speed is not too quick (I find the STI and Evo twitchy on freeways) nor too slow, the wheel feels meaty/padded and nicely sized and there is a lot of feedback (most I've felt in a car since the E46M3, much better than the new BMW's however Lotus guys will find it lacking compared to the unassisted racks!). I prefer the normal mode for the most part and occasionally sport for spirited driving. Comfort is mostly used in parking lots. The wheel also feels substantial, the buttons have a nice resistance to them and the metal trim feels real and premium. I didnt know American cars did steering well - the other car that I enjoyed steering is the new ATS and CTS!

2 - Seats. I'm sure the Recaro thrones are great - a lot of folks who bought them seemed to love them. I took a big chance canceling my Recaros and going with the Premium 68B seats. I'm 5-10, narrow waist/broad shoulders/skinny. The seats I have fit me snugly, are SUPER comfy (really good padding and form - so while there are no a gazillion ways adjustable, they really work), lovely head and back support, well bolstered (the bolsters are prominent but soft - they have supported me well on .85 G turns on some on-ramps). I will share more when I auto-x the car. The leather is quality although I want to see how it holds up (I use lexol once a month), the seat heaters work quickly. I havent used the AC mode yet. For those of us who plan on using baby seats in the future, the memory recline is also very useful. I also think with the 68B stitching they looks sporty and sophisticated. I miss my memory seats in my BMW - it was an option but I didnt want the other stuff that came with it. I use memory a lot as I often move the seat back when exiting the car.

I guess both the above + the forgiving suspension (in my PP) means I feel loads of confidence with this car. The engine also dishes out the power linearly, so I dont feel I will get it wrapped around a tree. Easy car to drive fast and enjoy.

Love the manual tranny as well, but struggling with shifting smoothly with the clutch. I've only owned manual cars (wife drive autos). I think it has to do with the high take off point for the clutch - not sure yet.
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You shift to comfort steering in parking lots???
I haven't found a reason to use comfort mode yet. I'm pretty much in sport mode for steering all the time, even on the highway. Just feels better to me.
 
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You shift to comfort steering in parking lots???
I haven't found a reason to use comfort mode yet. I'm pretty much in sport mode for steering all the time, even on the highway. Just feels better to me.
Not all the time, but sometimes I do. My work in particular has 4-5 floors of horrible underground parking. The spots themselves can be nice, but its a PITA to navigate with random pillars, tight bottlenecks etc.
 

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I'd like to hear more about the steering. I have a '14 GT500, and I find the steering jittery as hell. I spend all my time correcting the path, perhaps a little less so in sport mode. Have they improved this a lot with the new model?
 

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ever since the mustang got electric steering it has been praised for its feel, whereas mustangs of the past were not. its kinda funny how ford has been able to do what bmw and porsche have not with electric steering
 
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I'd like to hear more about the steering. I have a '14 GT500, and I find the steering jittery as hell. I spend all my time correcting the path, perhaps a little less so in sport mode. Have they improved this a lot with the new model?
Cant speak to your delish GT500, but I did drive my friends race prepped Boss 302 in the auto-x a bit. The steering was pretty slow, the wheel was large and there was no connection to the tires. This one is infinitely better and tracks true. Btw, jitteriness can occur from tramlining of super wide front tires-dunno if your 500 had that.

ever since the mustang got electric steering it has been praised for its feel, whereas mustangs of the past were not. its kinda funny how ford has been able to do what bmw and porsche have not with electric steering
It is electric assist or pure electric (meaning, there is no physical connection between the steering wheel and tires, ala Infinity Q50?). I suspect its the former as there is way too much feedback unless I'm imagining this in my honeymoon phase with the car.
 
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It is electric assist or pure electric (meaning, there is no physical connection between the steering wheel and tires, ala Infinity Q50?). I suspect its the former as there is way too much feedback unless I'm imagining this in my honeymoon phase with the car.
It is electric assist, steering wheel IS connected to the rack so you COULD manually steer car if electric assist fails.

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As I'm getting a better feel for this car, I want to call out two more things I appreciate. A few weeks ago I mentioned the engine - link here

1 - Steering. This is a really good application of (electric?) steering. The speed is not too quick (I find the STI and Evo twitchy on freeways) nor too slow, the wheel feels meaty/padded and nicely sized and there is a lot of feedback (most I've felt in a car since the E46M3, much better than the new BMW's however Lotus guys will find it lacking compared to the unassisted racks!). I prefer the normal mode for the most part and occasionally sport for spirited driving. Comfort is mostly used in parking lots. The wheel also feels substantial, the buttons have a nice resistance to them and the metal trim feels real and premium. I didnt know American cars did steering well - the other car that I enjoyed steering is the new ATS and CTS!

2 - Seats. I'm sure the Recaro thrones are great - a lot of folks who bought them seemed to love them. I took a big chance canceling my Recaros and going with the Premium 68B seats. I'm 5-10, narrow waist/broad shoulders/skinny. The seats I have fit me snugly, are SUPER comfy (really good padding and form - so while there are no a gazillion ways adjustable, they really work), lovely head and back support, well bolstered (the bolsters are prominent but soft - they have supported me well on .85 G turns on some on-ramps). I will share more when I auto-x the car. The leather is quality although I want to see how it holds up (I use lexol once a month), the seat heaters work quickly. I havent used the AC mode yet. For those of us who plan on using baby seats in the future, the memory recline is also very useful. I also think with the 68B stitching they looks sporty and sophisticated. I miss my memory seats in my BMW - it was an option but I didnt want the other stuff that came with it. I use memory a lot as I often move the seat back when exiting the car.

I guess both the above + the forgiving suspension (in my PP) means I feel loads of confidence with this car. The engine also dishes out the power linearly, so I dont feel I will get it wrapped around a tree. Easy car to drive fast and enjoy.

Love the manual tranny as well, but struggling with shifting smoothly with the clutch. I've only owned manual cars (wife drive autos). I think it has to do with the high take off point for the clutch - not sure yet.
You are the first person I have seen who did the same as I did dropping Recaros for 68B. I too am very happy with my choice. At 6"4' the Recaros fit me but not nearly as well as the standard seats.
 

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You are the first person I have seen who did the same as I did dropping Recaros for 68B. I too am very happy with my choice. At 6"4' the Recaros fit me but not nearly as well as the standard seats.
Add me to that list. I originally ordered Recaros, but dropped them and added 68B before I got a VIN. Totally the right decision *for me*; I'm completely thrilled with the stock premium/premier trim seats. The Recaros are awesome, and if it was solely a toy, I would have kept them. But on a pseudo-daily-driver, I just didn't think it was necessary.

My rationalization was... if I do happen to track the car, the difference in those seats is not going to be directly proportional to any difference in my lap times. The seats won't be the limiting factor - I will. LOL

~Matt
 

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Love the manual tranny as well, but struggling with shifting smoothly with the clutch. I've only owned manual cars (wife drive autos). I think it has to do with the high take off point for the clutch - not sure yet.
Pull out the clutch assist spring and see what you think (easy task, there are threads.....).
 

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Does anyone's steering have different resistance between left or right? Its a lot easier for me to make left turns, might be because my steering column isn't level...
 

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Add me to that list. I originally ordered Recaros, but dropped them and added 68B before I got a VIN. Totally the right decision *for me*; I'm completely thrilled with the stock premium/premier trim seats. The Recaros are awesome, and if it was solely a toy, I would have kept them. But on a pseudo-daily-driver, I just didn't think it was necessary.

My rationalization was... if I do happen to track the car, the difference in those seats is not going to be directly proportional to any difference in my lap times. The seats won't be the limiting factor - I will. LOL

~Matt
Mine was after my VIN unfortunately so I was unable to switch from 400A to 401A with my switch. 401A was wasted with my original order. In the end I am glad I didn't spend the extra money on it now though because memory seats don't matter since I am the only one who drives my car.
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