GT350 vs. Z/28

[Sasuketr]

Pill
But a 1le can lap faster than a Boss302, what were they thinking? They never needed to go that far! If thats how they play their game than let Ford compare the 350r to 2013 1le instead of a z28!

Sponsored

 

[thePill]

Pill
But a 1le can lap faster than a Boss302, what were they thinking? They never needed to go that far! If thats how they play their game than let Ford compare the 350r to 2013 1le instead of a z28!

Can it? Who said? A magazine?

A 1LE is only classed in T2 and that is where it belonged. The GT350 is NOT a T2 class vehicle. The GT is reserved for T2 and below.

Regardless, a 1LE would still be a 2015 would it not?

...and we still don't know if there will be a 2015 GT350 and GT350R at the end of the year. I think a very limited run of 2015's is priority. There are some advantages in this scenario for Ford. Especially when a limited run of high performance vehicles are concerned.

Another concern is, when will there ever be a 6th Gen z28? Will it combine two models (or three) since there is only an NA LT1 and a S/C LT4.

I'll say this right now... Chevy (or GM) doesn't have a naturally aspirated V8 that can contend with the Voodoo. The LT1 just isn't it, even a dry sump won't cut it and would have that engine pushing 500lbs. If the LT4 is used and the ZL1 and z28's roles are merged... well then... I will refer you to the C7 Z06 section of supreme haters. It was a bad move for the Z06, it would be equally bad for the z28.

 

[Taneras]

i still think comparing a 2014 z28 to a 2016 350 r as irrelevant. Lets talk when the new generion is out and see where we are at.

Follow your own advice? If that's how you feel don't worry about it.

 

[Trackaholic]

Interesting point about what the future Camaro's might have in terms of engine.

Typically you can look at the Corvette and guess that the Camaro will have a similar engine, with slightly lower HP.

With that in mind, the LT1 is an obvious choice. Probably would be making 450 HP with fantastic torque, cylinder deactivation and direct injection. Would make the Camaro an excellent performer with good fuel economy (especially HWY). I think the GT would have a hard time competing without some power upgrades or weight reduction.

However, for a hipo version, the LT4 is really all that is available. Makes sense for a GT500 competitor, but not for a GT350 equivalent.

The Z/28 is the closest match to the GT350, but I don't know what engine would power a next-gen Z/28. LS7 would likely no longer be an option, LT1 is probably not powerful enough, and LT4 isn't a good choice for a track car due to weight and heat. I would love to see an LT1 with the cylinder deactivation removed, a higher redline, and a more aggressive cam profile that can do a better job maintaining torque to redline. Maybe they have room to bore it out a bit for larger valve area. Would they ever put the TTV6 from the ATS-V in a Camaro? That would be an interesting choice, and would offer something Ford does not. For a track car I'd still prefer a normally aspirated V8.

Might be that in the future there won't be as direct a comparison to the GT350 as the Z/28 is now.

-T

 

[Sasuketr]

Wait why can't they use ls7? If the upcoming gen6 z28 looses weight and stripped down as a track car lets assume c6 zo6 numbers. Lap time 7:22 and if i was Ford i would benchmark that! I really want Ford to step up their game come on! :ford:

 

[Sasuketr]

And also give me a supercharged light weight 5.2 voodoo GT500 to match Nismo Godzilla, then shut up and take my money!

 

[thePill]

Wait why can't they use ls7? If the upcoming gen6 z28 looses weight and stripped down as a track car lets assume c6 zo6 numbers. Lap time 7:22 and if i was Ford i would benchmark that! I really want Ford to step up their game come on! :ford:

The 6th Gen could very well end up being close to 3900lbs. Chevy has already said the LS7 is kaput...
Regardless of power, I don't think a Camaro of any kind is going to follow the GT350 into C7 Corvette territory.

The GT350R could weigh under 3500lbs.

 

[Cmycobrafly]

The 6th Gen could very well end up being close to 3900lbs. Chevy has already said the LS7 is kaput...
Regardless of power, I don't think a Camaro of any kind is going to follow the GT350 into C7 Corvette territory.

The GT350R could weigh under 3500lbs.

R u high??? So now it is going to weight 200 pounds less than a gt???? Also when a camaro weighed 37?? Pounds in 2010 or whatever u called it "fat pig" yet when a must weighs that much it is gods gifts to engineering! You r way behind when u talk about engines the gen 6 halo car will have an "lt5 trademark dohc direct injected 5.5l engine I can't believe with all of the " knowledge" and "inside info" u get u didn't know about this engine! You make us Ford owners and loves look like a bunch of whinny babys. When a mustang loses on a road course by 2 seconds it I'd a close race when a mustang wins by 1/2 second it is a murder. Also with ur ring conspiracy's u do realize they use GPS very accurate GPS and just slapped that over the video! They didn't use the video or timer as there time that was the time off the high dollar vbox they have!!

 

[mustangletback]

R u high??? So now it is going to weight 200 pounds less than a gt???? Also when a camaro weighed 37?? Pounds in 2010 or whatever u called it "fat pig" yet when a must weighs that much it is gods gifts to engineering! You r way behind when u talk about engines the gen 6 halo car will have an "lt5 trademark dohc direct injected 5.5l engine I can't believe with all of the " knowledge" and "inside info" u get u didn't know about this engine! You make us Ford owners and loves look like a bunch of whinny babys. When a mustang loses on a road course by 2 seconds it I'd a close race when a mustang wins by 1/2 second it is a murder. Also with ur ring conspiracy's u do realize they use GPS very accurate GPS and just slapped that over the video! They didn't use the video or timer as there time that was the time off the high dollar vbox they have!!

5.5 huh,i will believe that when i see it.so you think the crapmaro will have a better motor than the vette?:lol:

 

[1320']

R u high??? So now it is going to weight 200 pounds less than a gt???? Also when a camaro weighed 37?? Pounds in 2010 or whatever u called it "fat pig" yet when a must weighs that much it is gods gifts to engineering! You r way behind when u talk about engines the gen 6 halo car will have an "lt5 trademark dohc direct injected 5.5l engine I can't believe with all of the " knowledge" and "inside info" u get u didn't know about this engine! You make us Ford owners and loves look like a bunch of whinny babys. When a mustang loses on a road course by 2 seconds it I'd a close race when a mustang wins by 1/2 second it is a murder. Also with ur ring conspiracy's u do realize they use GPS very accurate GPS and just slapped that over the video! They didn't use the video or timer as there time that was the time off the high dollar vbox they have!!

This post is a mess...holy crap. You call Pill out for "crap" but pull some LT5 DOHC 5.5l (racing only displacement btw) crap out of your ass...

Just..wow

 

[Cmycobrafly]

This post is a mess...holy crap. You call Pill out for "crap" but pull some LT5 DOHC 5.5l (racing only displacement btw) crap out of your ass...

Just..wow

Sorry I am not a car forum tough guy! I work for a living don't have time typing 10 page respones! Go take ur spot watches to the ring! Because apparently that is what gm dkrs! Talk in the third person some more u need a bigger head!!!!!

 

[Cmycobrafly]

The pill thinks a 5.5 l is racing only discplacent wait let me guess that I'd max displacement for some class!!gm could pick 5.2 or 5.3 or 5.5 or 5.5 that isn't how power train engineers think! They have effiencey goals! It may be a smidge smaller or bigger but that was starting point! Also name was trademarked like in 2012 again!

 

[Cmycobrafly]

5.5 is racing only displacement because pill says so must be fact

 

[1320']

GM has openly said the 5.5L is a racing only displacement, something that even the GM goons over on camaro5 have confirmed.

 

[thePill]

Who is high???

I think that was the man that didn't know the LS7 was a Z06 engine...

I'd rather be an internet tough guy than an internet retard...

Sponsored