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[sk47]

Report: Porsche Pulls Another U-Turn as Next Cayman and Boxster to Get Gas Engines

Hello; Seems another car company is reversing course on EV only models.

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[sk47]

Ouch! Huge $19.5B loss for Ford on EVs…

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/f...-charge-ev-bet-implodes-pivots-grid-batteries

Hello; The last few years some on here have argued over the direction the automobile industry was heading. To be fair there was considerable force being applied and to a degree the car companies were not given too much of a choice. Some had to forced onto the EV bandwagon while others jumped on their own. Regardless of why this is a blow to Ford. I do hope the company can recover.

 

[Joshinator99]

Hello; The last few years some on here have argued over the direction the automobile industry was heading. To be fair there was considerable force being applied and to a degree the car companies were not given too much of a choice. Some had to forced onto the EV bandwagon while others jumped on their own. Regardless of why this is a blow to Ford. I do hope the company can recover.

Agreed. But that said, there were a LOT of people (including many on this board) who tried to gaslight us into thinking that EVs were in hot demand and here to replace ICE on a full replacement basis. That the technology was ready and the masses wanted them in great demand. Essentially parroting what the Biden Administration was spouting. It was all false, with a massively upside down business model being papered over with borrowed government debt. Poor people were incentivizing EVs for wealthy suburbs since they were the only people who could afford them (and thus reap the big incentives). Glad that’s all coming to an end, but we’ll be paying that government handout in taxes for many years to come.

 

[308 Cal. Bullitt]

Agreed. But that said, there were a LOT of people (including many on this board) who tried to gaslight us into thinking that EVs were in hot demand and here to replace ICE on a full replacement basis. That the technology was ready and the masses wanted them in great demand. Essentially parroting what the Biden Administration was spouting. It was all false, with a massively upside down business model being papered over with borrowed government debt. Poor people were incentivizing EVs for wealthy suburbs since they were the only people who could afford them (and thus reap the big incentives). Glad that’s all coming to an end, but we’ll be paying that government handout in taxes for many years to come.

Sounds like you're insinuating that the
- Inflation Reduction Act -
did not deliver the goods, it promised...?

Have any proof?
& please, don't use facts to try to persuade us. Nobody uses those in 2025.

Kidding aside, I wish we could have avoided C19, & the ~4yrs of nonsense that followed.
All the electrification from projects like the the Stellantis Charger, to the F150, was largely for nothing. Wasted time, engineering, & money.
I wonder if Gavin's 2035 mandates of - all EVs - & no ICE vehicles, is still in play?

 

[sk47]

Tesla drivers are buying escape tools and cars to avoid getting trapped inside

Hello; An interesting read and raised a question for me. We have seen reports of folks trapped inside these cars. That is bad news for some owners.
The question for me is why an electronic door latch to begin with? I suspect it flows from the old saying that if you are a hammer everything looks like a nail. The folks at Tesla are into electronics & computers. So, even though manual door latches work just fine they just had to do something electronic.
Next level is they apparently do not think very hard past an electronic feature. Apparently there is a manual way to open a door, it is just not very simple.

 

[sk47]

I wish we could have avoided C19, & the ~4yrs of nonsense that followed.
All the electrification from projects like the the Stellantis Charger, to the F150, was largely for nothing. Wasted time, engineering, & money.
I wonder if Gavin's 2035 mandates of - all EVs - & no ICE vehicles, is still in play?

Hello; I also wish the nonsense which surrounded Covid & the "green agenda". I still am concerned about the financial costs, opportunity costs and onerous exhibition of "big government power plays".
We are still enduring the effects of printing money, forced vaccinations, open borders and the lost faith in our health care institutions. The massive spending for things such as "green energy" and EV's has helped dig a $38,000,000,000,000 (38 trillion) hole. That the Inflation reduction act spending did in fact increase the inflation rate greatly is not lost on most of us.
In fullness of time we now understand children and infants have died as a result of mandated Covid shots they did not really need.
It also seems the same characters which opened the borders and ushered in millions of unvetted people are now dragging out the needed process of removing undesirable folks.

NGO's and other agents coached illegals on how to game the system by falsely declaring for asylum. So with a wink, wink and a nod they are now considered "documented". By being considered documented they become eligible for health care and other aid, including legal aid. Some get a license to drive big rigs when they cannot read English and the license has in the spot for a name "no name given". Yet this same crew of characters who brought these troubles upon us, expect us to again accept their point of view.

Turns out it is not just alphabet agencies such as the EPA making up rulings to kill off the ICE in vehicles, there are biased judges legislating from the bench which is not their place.

We are still in a fight for our lifestyles and perhaps even our very lives in some places. Who dosent drive next to big rigs? I do not ride busses nor subways but lots of folks do.

enough from me!

 

[HoosierDaddy]

enough from me!

Believe it when I see it.

 

[sk47]

Believe it when I see it.

Hello; Yeah, you are right. Likely that I will get in one of those moods again.

 

[308 Cal. Bullitt]

Hello; Yeah, you are right. Likely that I will get in one of those moods again.

ya hav a few jealousy fans

they must mis the '21-'24 era

plenty of electric Charger's & F150 Lightning's to be had for that crowd

 

[sk47]

Hello; Just ran across a story. May be old news. I think it goes back to 2018or at least was signed into law back then. Seem California has a way for other folks (taxpayers) to pay for an EV owners battery repairs or replacement if the EV owner meets a low-income scale. Some $7,500 to repair an EV battery. Some $10,000 if the battery is so bad it must be replaced.
If the EV owner has a too great income then that owner pays the bills themselves.

Want to pay for other people’s car repairs? In California, you will

Hello; A personal story. I have a childhood friend who always had stuff because his grandparents were very generous to him. Cars, motorcycles and the like. Eventually both grandparents passed leaving him a very nice brick house and a very generous inheritance. All so far fair enough.

As he got into his senior years he began mowing lawns in his neighborhood. Partly to have some thing to do physically and because he calculated his pricing per hour so he made good money. He charged to pick up ticks and stuff in the spring. He charged for weed eating & for blowing. All so far fair enough.

Here is the point. When it came time to file taxes, he could the income from mowing as his part of the filing. That placed him in a very low-income category. So, he got several federal handouts including each year a check from the government to bring him up to the federal poverty limit. Not in California so no EV repair. He does not have an EV anyway. Point of the story being an example of income derived programs can go the well off.

I also know of a well off guy with acreage and a fine three-story house somehow on Medicaid.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Hello; Just ran across a story. May be old news. I think it goes back to 2018or at least was signed into law back then. Seem California has a way for other folks (taxpayers) to pay for an EV owners battery repairs or replacement if the EV owner meets a low-income scale. Some $7,500 to repair an EV battery. Some $10,000 if the battery is so bad it must be replaced.
If the EV owner has a too great income then that owner pays the bills themselves.

Want to pay for other people’s car repairs? In California, you will

Hello; A personal story. I have a childhood friend who always had stuff because his grandparents were very generous to him. Cars, motorcycles and the like. Eventually both grandparents passed leaving him a very nice brick house and a very generous inheritance. All so far fair enough.

As he got into his senior years he began mowing lawns in his neighborhood. Partly to have some thing to do physically and because he calculated his pricing per hour so he made good money. He charged to pick up ticks and stuff in the spring. He charged for weed eating & for blowing. All so far fair enough.

Here is the point. When it came time to file taxes, he could the income from mowing as his part of the filing. That placed him in a very low-income category. So, he got several federal handouts including each year a check from the government to bring him up to the federal poverty limit. Not in California so no EV repair. He does not have an EV anyway. Point of the story being an example of income derived programs can go the well off.

I also know of a well off guy with acreage and a fine three-story house somehow on Medicaid.

I guess I shouldn't tell you about the earned income credit scams.

I suspect loophole got closed at some point but in the '80s a lot of married people in my circle would put almost all their income in employer deferred compensation plans. That meant they did not claim it as income until withdrawn. They would file single returns while living off the spouse's income which meant the govt paid them an earned income refund.

 

[sk47]

Scientists quietly reverse climate doomsday prediction beloved by corporate media

Hello; I was not sure where to post the above link. It is about dire climate change predictions having to be revised down from what has been published the last 15 years. At least such is the interpretation I took from a reading.
I recall during the lengthy & contentious discussions had over the years that there appeared to be anomalies in the computer model predictions which did not line up with observed data. I have not gone back to look for the threads and posts where the discussions took place but do think the stuff exists.
I think my take was the anomalies meant the predictions could not be relied upon. There was pushback or more often the implications were simply ignored. The anomalies cannot any longer be ignored, it seems, even by those who would like to ignore them.

That the reversal is done quietly may be a clue. Correct me if I am wrong but I thought these predictions were a big part of the base upon which climate alarmism was presented. That we must change our energy & transportation establishment in a drastic upheaval. Anyway, such is a take after a quick read of the link.

 

[NightmareMoon]

Scientists quietly reverse climate doomsday prediction beloved by corporate media

Hello; I was not sure where to post the above link. It is about dire climate change predictions having to be revised down from what has been published the last 15 years. At least such is the interpretation I took from a reading.
I recall during the lengthy & contentious discussions had over the years that there appeared to be anomalies in the computer model predictions which did not line up with observed data. I have not gone back to look for the threads and posts where the discussions took place but do think the stuff exists.
I think my take was the anomalies meant the predictions could not be relied upon. There was pushback or more often the implications were simply ignored. The anomalies cannot any longer be ignored, it seems, even by those who would like to ignore them.

That the reversal is done quietly may be a clue. Correct me if I am wrong but I thought these predictions were a big part of the base upon which climate alarmism was presented. That we must change our energy & transportation establishment in a drastic upheaval. Anyway, such is a take after a quick read of the link.

Dont be too optimistic.

The article is about a single model of many. This article is a news outlet reporting on news outlets and which model they liked to report to be inflamitory and get clicks.

The science uses many climate models to try to predict. Some will be accurate, some will not be. Some will overpredict, some will underpredict. This is just saying that one looks like its way off and science does what science does and has stopped using it because it doesnt fit the trends. One of many.

Thats not saying that suddenly things dont look so bad, only that one of the worst models has been ruled incorrect.

But the moral is, when the media start reporting on what other media are saying or doing, they’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel, as is the case here.

 

[NHMach1]

As an Owner of a 2021 Mach 1, 2025 F150 Lightning and 2025 Mach E GT I can say I love them all. I love the Mach 1 the most of course lol. But EVs are not for everyone. If you want one, get one, if you don’t that’s your choice too. There just shouldn’t be a tax incentive from the government in my opinion which I’m glad was removed. But I sure took it! Or the political push to buy them. I was very skeptical of EVs until I drove one. They are a blast. For my business it saves a ton of money as well with how much we drive. But it’s the perfect scenario for me. Under 250 miles a day, warm climate with lots of Sun, charge with the Solar at the right times, rediculous price of gas in my wonderful State etc… I drive for a far less cost of a ICE vehicle for my daily and have a blast doing it! I’m a car nut so anything fast and cool I’m all for. Trust me I didn’t always think this way that’s for sure!

 

[sk47]

cience uses many climate models to try to predict. Some will be accurate, some will not be. Some will overpredict, some will underpredict. This is just saying that one looks like its way off and science does what science does and has stopped using it because it doesnt fit the trends.

Hello; I follow what you say. My concern being for the last 15 years the erroneous predictions were used as a scare tactic to support (dare I say it) an agenda. The climate scientist and even folks on this forum pushed the models hard even when reasonable doubts were raised.

I spent most of my adult life in the minor league of science. I learned early on to be careful to make absolute proclamation's. I still recall when some things I studied hard to learn had to be dismissed when new facts arose. Often when a new instrument came about.

Science theory is supposed to be tested and challenged by others attempting to replicate.
I simply found the revelation is significant.

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