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The Super Snake appears to have a little bigger ducktail. But the concepts are very much alike. I would be curious to know how much R&D SA did on their aero package for the Super Snake and what their downforce numbers look like compared to the DHSC.
IIRC Shelby does have access to a wind tunnel for the design of their S650 aero. I’ll see if I can find the vid later
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when somebody filmed the dash screen and scrolled through the different modes and they recorded the animations, the cars clearly say "BOSS." I can't believe it'll be that way when in production

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I don't know man... they left this in the S550 GT500. 🤷‍♂️ Did Ford ever explain that one away?

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The DH SC will surely be a performer. The price is the most interesting unknown to me. I do prefer a Snake emblem, maybe some stripes, and some history/heritage. But this new car will be no slouch.
 

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I don't know man... they left this in the S550 GT500. 🤷‍♂️ Did Ford ever explain that one away?

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The DH SC will surely be a performer. The price is the most interesting unknown to me. I do prefer a Snake emblem, maybe some stripes, and some history/heritage. But this new car will be no slouch.
With the same engine, supercharger and transmission as the 500 it will definitely not be a slouch. You trading your 500 for one?
 

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With the same engine, supercharger and transmission as the 500 it will definitely not be a slouch. You trading your 500 for one?
No. But I'd consider buying one if the price is right. Definitely won't be the first in line. The S650s are available at very competitive pricing. If the DH SC follows suit, I'm on it. You?
 

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Not true. I ran one and it’s the vehicle itself with the window sticker and non-prototype information…
Let's be clear about this. I have the early GTD VIN's and this is 100% true.

Regarding DH SC's, I think their have been three that the public could even get close to as of now. Two in Detroit and now one at BJ. Are you saying publicly that any of those three had complete window stickers or are you talking about a car other than those three, that the public has never had access to?
 

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Are you a new hire or were these before you were employed at Ford? Because here's exactly what I referred to and it is absolutely legitimate.

Here's a few photos of the car that was shown at Le Mans, including the VIN.

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When you look up the VIN, this is the relevant window sticker. The car was a Dark Horse that Multimatic gutted and built into a GTD. They did a number of these. Go ahead and say they didn't.

DH sticker for GTD prototype a.webp


What is it you said you did again at Ford?
 

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FWIW, I did notice in the reveal, none of the cars they debuted had chassis #'s on the dash. They might be so early that they're not even PP, or TT cars. These might be one off prototypes bound for the crusher. So to the point about VINs and all... it may just be too early to tell and we're just speculating. Might, may, maybe, if... 🤷‍♂️

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I'm gonna go for a ride in my 350R. See you all in the spring when these things start popping up at Woodward and Carlisle. ✌

Edit: After seeing Epiphany post #367 above, these reveal cars are also probably a regular DH upfitted. They have a VIN but not a DH SC Vin. Definitely getting crushed. 🤪
 
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You are absolutely correct. The VIN on that car will definitely tell a story.
 

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No. But I'd consider buying one if the price is right. Definitely won't be the first in line. The S650s are available at very competitive pricing. If the DH SC follows suit, I'm on it. You?
No, not getting me to trade my 500 for one. I️ have Whippled mine and added a lot of carbon fiber. The 500 is just a work of art. Maybe the DHSC will grow on me. It will ultimately come down to pricing. If it is in line with what the 500 it would be tempting but something tells me it will be 120k instead of 90k for the base model.
 

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Let's be clear about this. I have the early GTD VIN's and this is 100% true.

Regarding DH SC's, I think their have been three that the public could even get close to as of now. Two in Detroit and now one at BJ. Are you saying publicly that any of those three had complete window stickers or are you talking about a car other than those three, that the public has never had access to?

I’m saying it isn’t true for the one that I ran the one here in front of me. (Other then the ones you’ve mention that are on display ) There is no EPA data on the sticker and the sticker also says that it isn’t for sale but everything else is accurate and non-prototype information. I don’t understand why the window sticker and what it contains is so important to you lol. I was just trying to help people figure out the weight without violating my confidentiality agreement.
 
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Are you a new hire or were these before you were employed at Ford? Because here's exactly what I referred to and it is absolutely legitimate.

Here's a few photos of the car that was shown at Le Mans, including the VIN.

Screenshot 2026-01-20 at 21-39-13 Instagram copy.webp


Screenshot 2026-01-20 at 21-39-23 Instagram copy.webp


Screenshot 2026-01-20 at 21-39-34 Instagram.webp


When you look up the VIN, this is the relevant window sticker. The car was a Dark Horse that Multimatic gutted and built into a GTD. They did a number of these. Go ahead and say they didn't.

DH sticker for GTD prototype a.webp


What is it you said you did again at Ford?
The one I ran displayed accurate information. 5.2 Predator 7spd trans and had no EPA or fuel economy on it.
 

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I don’t understand why the window sticker and what it contains is so important to you lol
When somebody implies your aren't telling the truth the mundane suddenly becomes relevant.

It would be logical to assume that a Dark Horse becoming a.... Dark Horse... at some point the VIN is going to work as have PP, etc, cars have in the past. Great. Looking forward to pricing. Then power figures. Then details yet to be shared on engineering updates. At that point there should be no more teeth left to pull. The quicker we get there the better.
 

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When somebody implies your aren't telling the truth the mundane suddenly becomes relevant.

It would be logical to assume that a Dark Horse becoming a.... Dark Horse... at some point the VIN is going to work as have PP, etc, cars have in the past. Great. Looking forward to pricing. Then power figures. Then details yet to be shared on engineering updates. At that point there should be no more teeth left to pull.
I wasn’t saying that you provided incorrect information. You’re absolutely right that many prototype and pre-production vehicles especially test mules often retain a base VIN (like a GT VIN) and don’t always reflect final trim or engineering details on the window sticker. That’s very common and something we’ve all seen before.

What I was trying to say is that the specific vehicle I was referencing, the one in front of me, appears to have accurate and updated information for that car. My hope was simply that the vehicles on display at the auto show might also reflect that same level of accuracy but you’re correct that this isn’t always the case, and many cars will still show original or placeholder VIN data during development.
 

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I think I understand the design of the nose now after seeing this,
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It's next years NASCAR nose.
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