Getting a GT350 at MSRP

[BlackDragon]

I checked you dealership, there not there.....sold for 75K and the dealer took their allotment for themselves....

The numbers are 343 Challenger and 546 Chargers for the whole year 15...there was not 1500 in Dec made, etc.... I looked at the email, and BTW this is the last post will will make on the HELLCAT....but The reason I give you the data, or post it is to show I know what the HELL Im talking about ..no pun intended:frusty: Lets all focus on the GT350

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[Cruzinaround]

All this HellCat stuff is making me nauseous. Excuse me while I go puke.

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

SOLD SOLD SOLD they are not there CALL THEM your talking about OLD NEW.

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

Everyone, Lets calm down on this site. Who care if someone talks about another car they WERE going to buy....Im sure not everyone on this site eats, breaths, Mustangs. My God, Im sure everyone had or has some other car they were looking at before they got the news on the GT350, and "R" was going to be bulit. I for one had a GT3RS and a V8 Vantage, and a 430 Ferrari (Im not bragging, Im just saying so what if I was, and another guy was looking at the HELLCAT, I think its interesting to see how these dealerships are handling a rare car and how they are treating the buyers of these cars, by marking them up. etc...or selling them a MSRP. And interesting fact about Ferrari, is that they do not mark there cars up, the ones that have the mark-up are sold cars and those cars are sold back to Ferrari and they mark them up, in Dallas Tx, if you buy one and sell it to your own buyer and not back to the dealership you will not be buying a new one anymore. Anyway just food for thought. I spoke with another dealership tonight and they said the first 5 GT350 they get allotted will have a market adjustment , and if the clients don't like it they do not have to order it and they will go to the next in line. I do not like this, but I think this is going to be a reality...perhaps some of us will have to wait for a while to get one.

 

[Hack]

Yeah just wait a little if you want a new car model and don't want to pay extra. Makes sense it's a benefit to be one of the first and you will pay something for that.

I agree the Hellcat info is interesting. Dodge guys really love the Challenger!

 

[Cruzinaround]

Its an absolutely disgusting practice to increase prices during the initial release. And a disservice to the buyers as it highly devalues their vehicles very soon afterwards.

Having money and having brains is all on the buyer.

Wanting customer loyalty or just wanting money is all on the Seller.

Mix and match as it applies to you.

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

I total agree.....For those dealerships that try to make an extra buck on one car, screw themselves in the long run, because if you do decide to trade in your upside down, or going to buy another car for the family, then the last person I would go to is the dealer that just took me.....MSRP is fair, they do okay and you do okay no one wins "so to say"

 

[Cruzinaround]

MSRP is totally in the dealership's favor and makes them money. The purchase invoice price is also something you should be allowed to see ...which is what the dealer actually pays for the car below MSRP. Which is the point where you can raise an eyebrow and call them the crooks that they are.

They already make money at the MSRP.

They completely devalue themselves and the vehicles they jack the prices up on. If the Vehicle is valued at 50k by the Manufacturer and the dealer decides to mark it up 20k more over MSRP. The Buyer is never going to be able to sell it or trade it for anything close to what he/she paid for it...ever. Even if he/she tows it off the lot and never drives it....It is still a complete loss. Even in today's times and the volumes these are sold at... they will not be so rare in the next 50 to 60 years. They will not increase their value like the Classics from the 60's... And whatever value they do have will not recoup the 20k over MSRP.

Dealerships that do this alienate the customer demographic that FoMoCo is actually targeting and bring the customer loyalty down with them. Even with FoMoCo doing so well financially right now....It takes total a'holes that run dealerships like the ones that do ADM's without any value added to the sale that would be considered tangible enough to justify the markup.

If they push it that much over MSRP. Then the intended audience is priced out or will actually consider a different vehicle from a different manufacturer and forever redirect their future business elsewhere. If that was to happen and FoMoCo was mine....I'd fine the dealerships significantly for undermining my target customer base.

Again all reasons why a direct buy model should be pushed for from both the Manufacturer and the consumer. Which would force the dealers to rethink how they do business.

 

[FPCV8YO]

I total agree.....For those dealerships that try to make an extra buck on one car, screw themselves in the long run, because if you do decide to trade in your upside down, or going to buy another car for the family, then the last person I would go to is the dealer that just took me.....MSRP is fair, they do okay and you do okay no one wins "so to say"

Anyone paying over MSRP is doing so voluntarily. How is the dealer the bad guy?

 

[Cruzinaround]

To charge over MSRP is a serious Vulture-ish move on the part of the dealer. And a stain on the reputation of the Manufacturer.

Like I said...if you owned the company producing the product that the dealerships were selling as a representative of your product... it does you as the owner no good to have them devalue your product to your target customer base. its simply bad business.

The people who do pay over MSRP...can only be defended by simply saying ...they have more money than brains.

there's a sucker born every minute.

 

[908ssp]

Dealers should charge every penny they can when they can that is capitalism. You are not being forced to buy anything like socialism. When dealers have guns and police then they are the government not car dealers.

 

[Cruzinaround]

Sure and in a country where there is capitalism and customer loyalty... The dealerships that do this simply lose out in the long run. Or..guys that think like you become their customers and support their expensive lifestyles while they chuckle at the sucker they landed that took the bait. I would think you're smarter than that though. You're on these forums.

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

I total agree with "Cruzinaround" FORD spend a lot of money on building a car to get the ZO6'er and the GT-R's to look at their car, and come over to a FORD product, and some gunslinger dealership prices the real guy that will drive it and enjoy it and show it off etc..right out of the market...into a competitor, or into no car. Hey I also agree that a Business should "make Hay while the sun is shining" but there is a limit...just my opinion

 

[MizzouRT]

Dealers have a financial incentive to hype how "rare" and "exclusive" a car like the GT350 is in an attempt to justify and get ADMs. I've found dealers to be the least reliable source of information on production numbers---the dealers are consistently understating actual production.

 

[908ssp]

Sure and in a country where there is capitalism and customer loyalty... The dealerships that do this simply lose out in the long run. Or..guys that think like you become their customers and support their expensive lifestyles while they chuckle at the sucker they landed that took the bait. I would think you're smarter than that though. You're on these forums.

If the cars don't sell they will lower the price and if you can't afford one work harder or get a better job. Like I said it isn't like food. Be real you're crying over a super luxury item... talk about spoiled.

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