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For my Mach1 HP I just got another set of wheels from Ford Performance 19x10.5 & 19x11 and put on the Michelin 4S on. 305 in front and 325 on rear. Couldn't find 315 for the rear. But the 325 fit great. Was a bit worried that the 325 would be too wide but fit with no issues. 4S are summer tires but at least better than the Cup2. For track I am thinking of running square so you don't need a spare for front and a spare for back.
This is the set-up Iā€™d like to do in the near future, and save the Cup2 for track days. Iā€™ve had PS4s on 3 different BMWs. They are a very good tire. I know theyā€™re a summer tire, but they preform very well in the cold and wet.

Probably would want something all season if I lived in a place with harsher winters, but if you live in a place like CA with fairly mellow winter conditions the PS4 are just fine.
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This is the set-up Iā€™d like to do in the near future, and save the Cup2 for track days. Iā€™ve had PS4s on 3 different BMWs. They are a very good tire. I know theyā€™re a summer tire, but they preform very well in the cold and wet.

Probably would want something all season if I lived in a place with harsher winters, but if you live in a place like CA with fairly mellow winter conditions the PS4 are just fine.
I'm still looking for M&S as I'm here in Canada. But won't ever drive my Mustang in the snow. I might have to go down in tire width and rims but will leave this for next Winter. Luckily I have a Ford Ranger for the crappy weather.
 

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FP has the PP2 wheels 10.5" and 11" in black colour (that's the only difference to OEM glossy gray). And another set with the same look (PP2-like) 9.5" and 10" in black colour. These are the same as the optional Y-spoke wheels for Mach 1 that are in glossy gray, just like OEM PP2.

So there's 4 sets available that differ in colour and width, FP are black, OEM are glossy gray. And FP is ton cheaper... Otherwise they are identical in look and quality, made in China.

Great looking wheels, I kept them for winter set :)

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So there IS a difference between OEM and Ford Performance! šŸ˜‚
 

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So there IS a difference between OEM and Ford Performance! šŸ˜‚
I think the confusion is that there is a difference in the Non HP wheel and the HP wheel. Which look the same.
 

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I think the confusion is that there is a difference in the Non HP wheel and the HP wheel. Which look the same.
I don't think the HP and non-HP wheel look alike. Perhaps we should say bird's-nest and standard šŸ˜‚ If the Ford Performance aren't the matte finish as the OEM, then I'm not sure why people are saying they're the same and same part number and all that.

I just wanna be sure and I'm just not at this point even though some say they're the same. But if one is black and one is the matte gray...
 

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I can vouch for @Charlemagne that the set from Ford Performance bought through the on line Ford vendor (Benny) here on this site is exactly the same as ā€œOEMā€. They come boxed real well, have TPMS sensors and FP center caps. Iā€™ve had a set for over a year now as a back up for the track. Upon receiving, I verified the part number cast into each wheel. Theyā€™re the same. Why Ford can ask like $800 a wheel when ordered separately is beyond my pay grade. The pic (bottom) with black lugs with FP caps are the ones from FP. The pic (top) with chrome lugs with pony caps are when i bought the car.

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I see this post and visit it often to see if the colors are going to magically change on me. I need them to be identical to what OEM wheels are. Center Cap is no biggie, but for my plans, they must be the same as the car came with - which this post says they are.
 

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I see this post and visit it often to see if the colors are going to magically change on me. I need them to be identical to what OEM wheels are. Center Cap is no biggie, but for my plans, they must be the same as the car came with - which this post says they are.
There's plenty of pictures in this big thread: https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/2021-mach-1-handling-package-wheel-obsession.143549/. Don't get confused with plenty of SVE pictures posted there as well.
 

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I don't think the HP and non-HP wheel look alike. Perhaps we should say bird's-nest and standard šŸ˜‚ If the Ford Performance aren't the matte finish as the OEM, then I'm not sure why people are saying they're the same and same part number and all that.
You are mixing apples and oranges :)
My comment #34 talks about PP2 style wheels (Y-spokes) that are available both as 9.5/10" and 10.5/11" widths from both FP (black) and Ford OEM (gray) and is a reply to Arknsawchuck. These are different in colour and widths. The 9.5/10" are optional to Mach 1 (for a surcharge) and are also used on HPP Ecoboost.

9.5/10" from FP: https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/m-1007k-dc19mb.html
10.5/11" from FP: https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/m-1007k-dc19xmb.html
compare to OEM optional Mach 1 Y-spokes 9.5/10" that are glossy gray and $3250 as a set:
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/lr3z-1007-d.html
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/lr3z-1007-e.html

That comment is not about HP wheels at all. HP wheels = bird's nest wheels. Those are sold by Ford Performance in a set and the FP ones are identical to OEM in everything, width 10.5/11" and colour matte gray.
FP set for $1092: https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/m-1007k-mach1h.html
to reiterate, these are the same as OEM:
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/mr3z-1007-e.html
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/mr3z-1007-d.html
which cost over $4000 as a set! But they are identical and available through Ford Performance supermarket as a set with TPMS and center caps for unbeliavale $1092 on Levittown.

For completeness, these are base Mach 1 5-spoke wheels:
FP set for $939: https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/m-1007k-mach1s.html
which are again identical to OEM ones:
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/mr3z-1007-b.html
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/mr3z-1007-c.html
which cost $3142.

Let's be glad that Ford Performance came up with selling these kits that cost a fraction of OEM price. The OEM pricing is silly. It probably has some protective function that no Mach 1 owners buy those and only people buy them for replacement of damaged rim paid by insurance company and such.
 

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I see this post and visit it often to see if the colors are going to magically change on me. I need them to be identical to what OEM wheels are. Center Cap is no biggie, but for my plans, they must be the same as the car came with - which this post says they are.
The Mach1 HP bird nest wheels that came on the car are EXACTLY the same as the FP ones that are available from Levittown Ford. Iā€™m only referring to the HP bird nest wheels and NOT the y-spoke which I know nothing of.
 

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You are mixing apples and oranges :)
My comment #34 talks about PP2 style wheels (Y-spokes) that are available both as 9.5/10" and 10.5/11" widths from both FP (black) and Ford OEM (gray) and is a reply to Arknsawchuck. These are different in colour and widths. The 9.5/10" are optional to Mach 1 (for a surcharge) and are also used on HPP Ecoboost.

9.5/10" from FP: https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/m-1007k-dc19mb.html
10.5/11" from FP: https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/m-1007k-dc19xmb.html
compare to OEM optional Mach 1 Y-spokes 9.5/10" that are glossy gray and $3250 as a set:
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/lr3z-1007-d.html
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/lr3z-1007-e.html

That comment is not about HP wheels at all. HP wheels = bird's nest wheels. Those are sold by Ford Performance in a set and the FP ones are identical to OEM in everything, width 10.5/11" and colour matte gray.
FP set for $1092: https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/m-1007k-mach1h.html
to reiterate, these are the same as OEM:
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/mr3z-1007-e.html
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/mr3z-1007-d.html
which cost over $4000 as a set! But they are identical and available through Ford Performance supermarket as a set with TPMS and center caps for unbeliavale $1092 on Levittown.

For completeness, these are base Mach 1 5-spoke wheels:
FP set for $939: https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/m-1007k-mach1s.html
which are again identical to OEM ones:
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/mr3z-1007-b.html
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/mr3z-1007-c.html
which cost $3142.

Let's be glad that Ford Performance came up with selling these kits that cost a fraction of OEM price. The OEM pricing is silly. It probably has some protective function that no Mach 1 owners buy those and only people buy them for replacement of damaged rim paid by insurance company and such.
I know we will get @swoop1156 to the finish line on this. FWIW, Iā€™m satisfied with my purchase of the second set of HP wheels, did not have to be concerned about fitment or quality. Same, same, put on car, done.
 

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I see this post and visit it often to see if the colors are going to magically change on me. I need them to be identical to what OEM wheels are. Center Cap is no biggie, but for my plans, they must be the same as the car came with - which this post says they are.
I went through my photos and these 2 are the best I can do to show the color similarities of both sets of the HP bird nest wheels. Of course different lighting of the day changes the hue but both were taken outside.

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So I have a HP Mach 1 on the way (deal being finalized atm) and I'll need to drive her in colder temps so was wheel searching and found these. These are exactly the same as the ones that come on the base Mach 1 cars, except in a OEM Gloss Black Finish. Also these were the PP2 wheel option. 19x9.5 fronts that will be paired with 25540r19 Michelin PS AS4 and 19x10 rears with 27540r19 Michelin PS AS4. Let me know if anyone has paired these with their Mach 1 yet.

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Close but no cigar, the PP2 wheel has a better appearance. They are sized 10.5 front 11.0 outback

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I could always be confused but I think the base wheels on the Mach 1 are the ones on my new M1 as shown below. Those look like the ones that are around a $500 option.

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My dealer replaced the same wheel (bent one) for $1248.00.
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