Science is now cancelled? [USERS NOW BANNED FOR POLITICS]

[Gregs24]

Do you think infection after vaccination will offer the same level of immunity as infection unvaccinated(setting aside the benefits of vaccination)?

I do have some worries about ADE(probably unfounded) but if question 1 is yes, could this offset any problem we could encounter with ADE?

It is very complex. It is thought a single dose of vaccine after a wild infection will provide better immunity than infection alone. But you have to consider the different delivery methods, local and humoral immunity, differing types of immunity and defence mechanisms within individual subjects. That is before you consider what benefits you are trying to achieve, such as prevention of illness, prevention of infection, prevention of onwards spread, in varying degrees.

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[K4fxd]

It has been explained over and over to you that this is not the case with factual evidence and yet still, a few days later, you just say the same things again. There is no hope ....

The facts you have presented show several warming periods that look exactly like the current one.

 

[Gregs24]

The facts you have presented show several warming periods that look exactly like the current one.

I'm not going to explain it again. Loads of information presented to you to help and you just keep saying the same thing. You refuse to learn - your loss

 

[K4fxd]

I'm not going to explain it again. Loads of information presented to you to help and you just keep saying the same thing. You refuse to learn - your loss

Many thousands of scientists agree with me. I suppose they don't understand things either.

 

[CJJon]

Do you think infection after vaccination will offer the same level of immunity as infection unvaccinated(setting aside the benefits of vaccination)?

I do have some worries about ADE(probably unfounded) but if question 1 is yes, could this offset any problem we could encounter with ADE?

I would imagine that immune response would be more robust in the breakthrough infection cases than it would be for the no vaccination group.

Your ADE worries at this point do seem to be unfounded. There have been zero reported cases as far as I know. I've no idea what the implications would be regarding AED and vaccinated/unvaccinated, etc. It really does seem moot at this point.

 

[CJJon]

it's definitely founded. Every previous corona-virus 'vax' attempt and also combined with MRNA delivery has resulted in 100% death of the test subjects. This winter is going to be a fun one to watch.

What are you talking about??

 

[shogun32]

The health benefits are real though and the gamble seems to have paid off at this point.

everything looks "great" in the short-term. There's a reason there is a 7-10yr bake time on Vax certification.

The MedCram and Drbeen medical lectures on YT are well worth a listen.

 

[shogun32]

Many thousands of scientists agree with me. I suppose they don't understand things either.

not to mention the predicate that "CO2 is bad" has never been established.

 

[CJJon]

There's a reason there is a 7-10yr bake time on Vax certification.

Yeah, the reason is that non-mRNA vaccines take much longer to produce. The production and certification time for vaccines will be much shorter going forward assuming mRNA will take over in popularity.

 

[CJJon]

not to mention the predicate that "CO2 is bad" has never been established.

Oy-vey!

 

[shogun32]

Also looking at UK trends, the US could be looking g at 200k+ daily cases in the coming months.

the world sees a billion+ cases of colds a year and nobody bats an eye. 'cases', especially those that are 'cases' arising from fraudulent PCR testing doesn't matter. Only counts of people who get sick enough to require significant medical intervention, or death matter. The covid treatment plan costs the same as the one for the common cold in every country that isn't a "western advanced" society where we practice politics instead of medicine.

 

[Gregs24]

The facts you have presented show several warming periods that look exactly like the current one.

You know what I posted and what is causing it. It is just the same old pattern with you:

You say (for at least the 20th time) it is all natural cycles

You are presented with graphs and data that prove man made causation to global temperature changes and effects

You go quiet for a day or two

You post it is all natural cycles

Pointless any further discussion on the subject

 

[Gregs24]

Many thousands of scientists agree with me. I suppose they don't understand things either.

And yet as before you cannot name a single one of these 'many thousands of scientists' that agree with you (of all people)

 

[Gregs24]

You are not wrong. The vaccine was like I just said an economic solution to a health crisis.

Stop and think of the economic outlook if we didn’t have a vaccine with a massive delta wave approaching. I think even people that don’t want the vaccine can admit we are better with it than without at this point.

Also looking at UK trends, the US could be looking g at 200k+ daily cases in the coming months.

The UK is certainly banking on the effectiveness of the vaccine. Should be OK but fingers crossed (and toes)

 

[Gregs24]

not to mention the predicate that "CO2 is bad" has never been established.

Clearly has - only in a few closed minds is it not a problem

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