GT Premium vs Mach 1 Premium

[GotNotch]

Yes, getting an auto eliminates one of the bigger differences between a GT and Mach 1.
If you don't care about the better manual trans, and the track ready cooling, it is hard to make a case for the Mach 1.

Personally I think it is a bit overpriced (too close to GT350 price, but too far from GT350 equipment), and that is before you consider the significant discount you can expect to get a GT for, verses no discount (or very little, or even ADM) for a Mach 1.

That gap closes if you get it from Granger under invoice.

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[Wyzz Kydd]

I don't own a Mach 1, but if you're going to buy a track oriented car, frequent tire replacement is part of the deal, particularly when you don't have a square setup.

Another drawback you'll find to those tires is that they're not very sticky when it's either cold, or wet, or both. The ideal solution is to buy another set of rims and put all seasons on them, then you can swap back and forth as desired while getting a lot more mileage out of the all seasons.

 

[NoVaGT]

.......The ideal solution is to buy another set of rims and put all seasons on them, then you can swap back and forth as desired while getting a lot more mileage out of the all seasons.

The best solution is to replace the Cup 2s with OEM-size Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires. The same ones on the PP1 cars.

All seasons are useless, especially in California. Don't waste the money.

 

[Wyzz Kydd]

The best solution is to replace the Cup 2s with OEM-size Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires. The same ones on the PP1 cars.

All seasons are useless, especially in California. Don't waste the money.

It probably depends upon what you're going to do with the car. If it's a DD then all seasons are needed in some parts of the country. It gets too cold here to drive summer tires year round, not to mention the rain.

OTH, if it's a weekend/summer driver then yeah I wouldn't put all seasons on it.

 

[NoVaGT]

It probably depends upon what you're going to do with the car. If it's a DD then all seasons are needed in some parts of the country. It gets too cold here to drive summer tires year round, not to mention the rain.

OTH, if it's a weekend/summer driver then yeah I wouldn't put all seasons on it.

It does not get too cold to drive on summer tires year 'round in Georgia. Or in California. I do it in Virginia, it's fine. My car is my DD, and it's just fine.

 

[Bikeman315]

It does not get too cold to drive on summer tires year 'round in Georgia. Or in California. I do it in Virginia, it's fine. My car is my DD, and it's just fine.

I think we have been through this before. You will do what you do. That, of course, is fine. But it is unwise to recommend to a new owner to do something that goes against a manufacturers recommendation. Summer tires, all summer tire have temperature limitations. These temperatures can be found in any state depending on the time of the year (remember Texas).

As for A/S tires, unless you are at the track or driving extremely hard on the road, the current crop of tires is exceptional. The Michelin AS3+ and AS4 are great tires. You give up very little even against the best summer tires. Depends on what the owner needs. To each his/her own.

 

[NoVaGT]

I think we have been through this before. You will do what you do. That, of course, is fine. But it is unwise to recommend to a new owner to do something that goes against a manufacturers recommendation. Summer tires, all summer tire have temperature limitations. These temperatures can be found in any state depending on the time of the year (remember Texas).

As for A/S tires, unless you are at the track or driving extremely hard on the road, the current crop of tires is exceptional. The Michelin AS3+ and AS4 are great tires. You give up very little even against the best summer tires. Depends on what the owner needs. To each his/her own.

What Max Performance Summer Tires have you used? And how long ago? What car did you buy/own that they came on?

 

[Bikeman315]

What Max Performance Summer Tires have you used? And how long ago? What car did you buy/own that they came on?

Michelin Pilot Sports on my 15' Mustang. Yes they were awesome, not saying the weren't. But afterwards I had to go to Michelin AS3+ and I found them to be excellent. Again for my type of driving which is moderate to highly aggressive. I did not track my car at all.

There is no black and white. It's gray and depends on multiple factors. You cannot definitively say all A/S tires suck and all summer tires are great. Well you can, but you would be wrong.

Kidding.

 

[NoVaGT]

Michelin Pilot Sports on my 15' Mustang. Yes they were awesome, not saying the weren't. But afterwards I had to go to Michelin AS3+ and I found them to be excellent. Again for my type of driving which is moderate to highly aggressive. I did not track my car at all.

There is no black and white. It's gray and depends on multiple factors. You cannot definitively say all A/S tires suck and all summer tires are great. Well you can, but you would be wrong.

Kidding.

Which Michelin Pilot Sports? There's.....like...89,000 different versions.

And how long ago?

The current Pilot Sport 4Ss, that came standard on the 18 & 19 PP1 cars, are perfectly useable in anything other than snow and ice.

This has nothing to do with going to the track, we're only talking street use here.

 

[ChitownStang]

The major reason I went with a M1 is the Tremec manual...if you are getting an A10, unless you are in love with the M1 styling, there's not a lot of reason to go M1 especially if it's not being tracked.

I disagree,
The A10 is much improved over the regular GT
Also Higher redline on Mach due to Manifold
Superior styling and better resale
IMO- totally worth it in either manual or Auto

 

[Wyzz Kydd]

What Max Performance Summer Tires have you used? And how long ago? What car did you buy/own that they came on?

I've gone through quite a few sets of Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3s and warm and dry, they're the bomb, cold and/or wet, the pucker factor can be high. I got about 15,000 miles per set.

 

[Kevindust]

The vast majority of all season tires are garbage from a performance and handling perspective. The Michelin AS3+ is one of a handful of exceptions, they are not a PS4S but they are still very, very good. (I would personally never put all season tires on a Mustang but I live in Canada where it is easy to justify full on summer and full on winter wheels and tires.)

However, all of this begs the question. If the OP is more concerned about mileage than track days, why spend the money on the Mach 1 Handling Package in the first place? The regular Mach 1 already has greater handling than a GT PP1 and it has MagneRide. If you never plan to see a road course and you aren't concerned with the ultimate handling 5.0, the HP makes little sense.

 

[Zelek]

In regards to the Cup 2's, pull them off when you take delivery and buy some brand new Pilot Sports. Sell the Cup 2's, take the profit and buy some jacking rails. The Cup 2's are not worth just driving around town one bit. It's a solid track tire.

 

[Bikeman315]

However, all of this begs the question. If the OP is more concerned about mileage than track days, why spend the money on the Mach 1 Handling Package in the first place? The regular Mach 1 already has greater handling than a GT PP1 and it has MagneRide. If you never plan to see a road course and you aren't concerned with the ultimate handling 5.0, the HP makes little sense.

See post #3. He already bought it. Why the HP? Probably because he wanted it. Why does it have to make sense? He will figure out what to do with the tires when he gets it.

 

[Bikeman315]

Sell the Cup 2's, take the profit and buy some jack.

Fixed it for you.

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