Fossil Fuels are Not the Enemy

[Matti777]

No offense but this is literally the easiest of the issues to overcome.

Not sure about that. Governments are struggling to keep up with road repair and replacement with a 50% fuel tax (at least up here).

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[ice445]

Not sure about that. Governments are struggling to keep up with road repair and replacement with a 50% fuel tax (at least up here).

That's because governments are poor and prioritize welfare over infrastructure. In the US at least, the main issue with the gas tax is that the federal government dumped all the interstates onto the states to manage, which given how many miles exist is pretty crippling especially with all the other miles of road. The gas tax has been less and less powerful as the years have gone on and cars have gotten more efficient.

But my point is that certain states have already drafted unique fees for electric cars now to get around this.

 

[EFI]

Not sure about that. Governments are struggling to keep up with road repair and replacement with a 50% fuel tax (at least up here).

He means that governments will easily solve that by just taxing EVs. Either by the amount of watts you use, or by miles traveled.

 

[Matti777]

He means that governments will easily solve that by just taxing EVs. Either by the amount of watts you use, or by miles traveled.

You can tax at annual registration or by electricity use. I'm not sure how you do that fairly.

 

[EFI]

You can tax at annual registration or by electricity use. I'm not sure how you do that fairly.

Probably go by miles traveled. That would be similar to per gallon as it's expected you drive a certain amount of miles with each gallon of gas.

 

[Matti777]

Probably go by miles traveled. That would be similar to per gallon as it's expected you drive a certain amount of miles with each gallon of gas.

Careful what you wish for. Maybe our insurance companies will track our mileage and our speeds too.

 

[EFI]

Careful what you wish for. Maybe our insurance companies will track our mileage and our speeds too.

Oh I don't wise it at all, I think that's a terrible way to go about it. But I'm sure it's headed that way.

And we are being tracked today as it is, whether it's Ford or our cellphone carrier.

 

[ice445]

Oh I don't wise it at all, I think that's a terrible way to go about it. But I'm sure it's headed that way.

And we are being tracked today as it is, whether it's Ford or our cellphone carrier.

"Hello Mr ice445, we see you did a 120MPH pull on I-15 yesterday. Due to this egregious violation of public safety, your policy has been cancelled."

Cant wait for it to be so expensive to insure without the data monitoring that it's essentially impossible, or they just remove the option entirely. That's what's hilarious about living in the golden age of horsepower, the insurance companies are dying to punish people for using it. Even if you do it in a manner that doesn't endanger anyone but yourself, they won't care. It's track or nothing, even though tracks across America are being closed because they're "too loud".

 

[Shadow277]

Ok so your plan is to put up 1000000000000000 wind mills? And Chinese solar panels. By the way all those panels and windmill parts are manufactured using hardrocarbon derived parts. Then we’re going to put all this extra electricity on a grid that’s been around since the 1940s. What could possibly go wrong?

People put solar pannels are their home. There are plenty of solutions; stop fighting progress.

 

[Shadow277]

Mmm yes, cancerous fossil fuels powering your fancy clean EVs. That's the way to save the earth.

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[Shadow277]

"Hello Mr ice445, we see you did a 120MPH pull on I-15 yesterday. Due to this egregious violation of public safety, your policy has been cancelled."

Cant wait for it to be so expensive to insure without the data monitoring that it's essentially impossible, or they just remove the option entirely. That's what's hilarious about living in the golden age of horsepower, the insurance companies are dying to punish people for using it. Even if you do it in a manner that doesn't endanger anyone but yourself, they won't care. It's track or nothing, even though tracks across America are being closed because they're "too loud".

I heard We have black boxes in our cars. Why?

 

[bluebeastsrt]

People put solar pannels are their home. There are plenty of solutions; stop fighting progress.

How does that have anything to do with the point I made? 800,000 people committed suicide in 2020. You gonna follow there lead also?

 

[EFI]

s o l a r

Yup, let's cover up half the country with solar panels and batteries cuz that's what's going to take to power the whole country and 300 million cars. Surely that won't have any impact on the environment.

And let's not forget the amount of metal and plastics that all those panels and batteries will need mined, extracted and processed to be built. And what are you going to do with millions of tons of those materials when they reach the end of their life cycle? That certainly won't impact the environment in any way.

 

[Jmtoast]

Not to be a EV party pooper but Where do we put all the all the used batteries?

 

[ice445]

Not to be a EV party pooper but Where do we put all the all the used batteries?

You just toss them in the ocean, obviously

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