My concern is as a Mustang enthusiasts whose owned 7, I want the car to outperform its rivals and be the best it can be.
the assumptions are based on physics and past performance for this platform vs its main competitor the Camaro in a nutshell.
About 120lbs give or take but you don't need the track pack for the same exact weight savings. Wheels will save you 20lbs but shit just remove the back seats. 100lbs and now your lighter than a demon. Then E85, pully and tune for your application. The extra weight is obviously the SC and the crazy amount of cooling. Mine added 150lbs so I'm probably at 3900lbs+ without the ability to add much more (630rwhp) without going with a chiller or meth. E85 would require me to upgrade my fuel system. They wouldn't let me look under the hood but Id be surprised if you can't go E85 right out the gate with a GT500. If you want a drag setup you're removing that spoiler for another 20lbs+ or whatever that thing (hated it in person) weighs.
Past performance? You mean like the old GT500 that (with proper tires) is still arguably faster in the ÂĽ mile than the ZL1?
While it is true that people paying it are ultimately to blame, Ford makes the vehicle that is worthy of people paying the ADM along with the low output of total vehicles....so I believe they share in the blame. Not saying it is good or bad just what it is.
yeah stock (meaning no tune or bolt ons) demons where struggling to get under 10. So you take a dual clutch, 4050lbs no seat GT500, put on some skinnies and drag radials (not sure how much it saves with stars etc.), and yeah I'm thinking you match that. But like the demon 9's is the ceiling. To get in the 8's demon owners have to go turbo and even then it's a 1 time thing.
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Well, the current GT is quicker in the 1/4 mile than the SS...correct?
And it would be equally as easy for Ford to drop in a 5.3 into the base GT. I’m not sure what your point is here.
Of course it won’t handle as well, at least not the base GT500. The same thing was said about the ZL1 (it didn’t handle as well as the SS 1LE). That doesn’t mean it won’t be faster around the track though….the ZL1 sure has hell was.
Right. I'm starting with the CFTP. I'm assuming the same kind of weight savings from GT350 to GT350R, about 120#. So that should put the CFTP at 4100#. Maybe it will wind up being lighter. After doing all the math of removing/replacing seats, battery, fluids, tire inflator, subwoofer, and then adding a cage, I come in at just under 4K. 3990#
I am a developer also for a very long time. I agree. No MID person is getting 6 figures, unless maybe at Amazon in Seattle or Microsoft and have been working there awhile and has got dirt on the pres....lol
Because it isn't going to be a full on race car. I will enjoy it with all the stuff and when it comes time to go to the track, just remove the offending creature comforts. Not a big deal.
Once again I'm not arguing quarter mile times, but claiming the GT is quicker than the SS is a stretch. Same day same track they would be as even as 2 cars could be
We are talking GT500 and ZL1. Ford has no more powerful motor to just drop in the Mustang...Chevy has the ZR1 motor and it will swap right in the Camaro....all they require is the desire to do so.
I have read alot about that and everywhere it has been said that GM will never put the Halo Car engine in the Camaro. The Z06 sure, it wasn't the ZR1. But GM could spread lies on purpose.
