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:facepalm: If you LOOK at the list it is for C7. Why? Because C8 price list isn’t out yet. The SOLE PURPOSE of the photo was to point out that TODAY Z51 is priced at $5,000, whether it is for an MT Vette or an AT Vette, it is $5,000 price differential. So no, this is NOT a THEORETICAL or PHOTOSHOPPED price list, it is a screenshot from Chevrolet.com. Please try to keep up. You can see post #310 for the link.
yes I mis-read that. We will see, its all speculation for now.

Ill be very surprised if the c8 traps 125 mph or more though. c7 trap 119 or so at best, same as mustang.
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It designs it but it doesn’t price it. That’s why I’m about to give myself a concussion face-palming from all these “estimates” (wishes?) that Z51 is going to be ridiculously expensive. Just looking at today’s pricing for the C7 Z51 option package that has MORE content than the C8 Z51 package (C8 doesn’t need to add dry sump because it’s already there) it looks like Z51 will add another $5k or so to whatever trim level (1LT / 2LT / 3LT) a buyer chooses to spec.

So, it is possible for somebody to order a 1LT ($60k) and only add Z51 ($5-ish) to get a 3s car for roughly $65k. Now, if I was ordering the car it would cost a lot more because I would spring for a 3LT and add PDR and a few other options. My best guess at this point is that would cost somewhere around $75 - 78, again based on price difference from 1LT to 3LT for C7 (just under $5k) and pricing for PDR. That puts it right around pricing for a base GT500, which is something I was considering for a 2021 - 22 purchase. I was thinking GT500 base + tech pack plus handling pack. That would have likely put me in the mid 80s. At this point, I’m probably leaning more C8, but I want to see how Grand Sport and Z06 get equipped and priced before I pull the trigger.
 

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yes I mis-read that. We will see, its all speculation for now.

Ill be very surprised if the c8 traps 125 mph or more though. c7 trap 119 or so at best, same as mustang.
You need to get a box of tissues handy.....

Lets see the

C8 will be lighter than a Mustang GT A10.
C8 will have DCT transmission which shifts faster than an A10.
C8 has at least 35 more HP than a Mustang GT A10.
C8 will be faster 0-60 than a Mustang GT.

If you dont think that car will trap 125 you are crazy.

I feel like 120-125mph trap is very realistic.

Again with the C7 comparisons..... SMH.

The base C7 is NOT 495 hp its 460.

The base C7 does 0-60 faster than a Mustang GT.

The base C7 will weigh more than a base C8.

The base C7 does not have a DCT transmisson.

Geezus I feel like I need a coloring crayon to explain some of this to you.......
 

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It designs it but it doesn’t price it. That’s why I’m about to give myself a concussion face-palming from all these “estimates” (wishes?) that Z51 is going to be ridiculously expensive. Just looking at today’s pricing for the C7 Z51 option package that has MORE content than the C8 Z51 package (C8 doesn’t need to add dry sump because it’s already there) it looks like Z51 will add another $5k or so to whatever trim level (1LT / 2LT / 3LT) a buyer chooses to spec.

So, it is possible for somebody to order a 1LT ($60k) and only add Z51 ($5-ish) to get a 3s car for roughly $65k. Now, if I was ordering the car it would cost a lot more because I would spring for a 3LT and add PDR and a few other options. My best guess at this point is that would cost somewhere around $75 - 78, again based on price difference from 1LT to 3LT for C7 (just under $5k) and pricing for PDR. That puts it right around pricing for a base GT500, which is something I was considering for a 2021 - 22 purchase. I was thinking GT500 base + tech pack plus handling pack. That would have likely put me in the mid 80s. At this point, I’m probably leaning more C8, but I want to see how Grand Sport and Z06 get equipped and priced before I pull the trigger.
I knew that it did not price, they want $1000 to reserve. No way. I would not reserve a damn thing unless I know the price.
 

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You need to get a box of tissues handy.....

Lets see the

C8 will be lighter than a Mustang GT A10.
C8 will have DCT transmission which shifts faster than an A10.
C8 has at least 35 more HP than a Mustang GT A10.
C8 will be faster 0-60 than a Mustang GT.

If you dont think that car will trap 125 you are crazy.

I feel like 120-125mph trap is very realistic.

Again with the C7 comparisons..... SMH.

The base C7 is NOT 495 hp its 460.

The base C7 does 0-60 faster than a Mustang GT.

The base C7 will weigh more than a base C8.

The base C7 does not have a DCT transmisson.

Geezus I feel like I need a coloring crayon to explain some of this to you.......
There is just no accounting for human reasoning sometimes. It is almost like high school again.
 

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You need to get a box of tissues handy.....

Lets see the

C8 will be lighter than a Mustang GT A10.
C8 will have DCT transmission which shifts faster than an A10.
C8 has at least 35 more HP than a Mustang GT A10.
C8 will be faster 0-60 than a Mustang GT.

If you dont think that car will trap 125 you are crazy.

I feel like 120-125mph trap is very realistic.

Again with the C7 comparisons..... SMH.

The base C7 is NOT 495 hp its 460.

The base C7 does 0-60 faster than a Mustang GT.

The base C7 will weigh more than a base C8.

The base C7 does not have a DCT transmisson.

Geezus I feel like I need a coloring crayon to explain some of this to you.......
120 mph trap is lower than a tune only gt and the same as a bone stock gt in good weather.

C7 is not faster 0-60 than a bone stock GT

C7 is not faster 1/4 mile than a bone stock gt

C7 does not trap faster than a bone stock GT

C7 does not shift faster than a bone stock GT with drag mode

A10 GT has better closer gearing and more gears than both c7 and c8.
 

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120 mph trap is lower than a tune only gt and the same as a bone stock gt in good weather.

C7 is not faster 0-60 than a bone stock GT

C7 is not faster 1/4 mile than a bone stock gt

C7 does not trap faster than a bone stock GT

C7 does not shift faster than a bone stock GT with drag mode

A10 GT has better closer gearing and more gears than both c7 and c8.

The "facts" about the c8 arent real world tested and proven yet.
This says the 2019 Mustang GT did 3.99 seconds 0-60

https://www.cars.com/articles/can-t...y-do-a-sub-4-second-zero-to-60-1420699990226/

0-60 times has the Corvette at 3.6 seconds for the 2017 Gran sport
 

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120 mph trap is lower than a tune only gt and the same as a bone stock gt in good weather.

C7 is not faster 0-60 than a bone stock GT

C7 is not faster 1/4 mile than a bone stock gt

C7 does not trap faster than a bone stock GT

C7 does not shift faster than a bone stock GT with drag mode

A10 GT has better closer gearing and more gears than both c7 and c8.

Where the hell are you pulling this info from?

You seriously need to stop trying to compare modded vs stock. Thats hilarious.

Where did I say the C7 shifts faster than an A10?

I said the C7 does not have a DCT like the C8 will.... Reading>You.

C7s are 0-60 Under 4 seconds like 3.7. A Mustang GT A10 is supposed to do 4 flat. I own a 2018 A10 too btw. I know damn well what it is with the A10.

Do you know the gearing of the C8? Do you know how a DCT compares vs the A10?

Hmmm seems to me there must be a reason Ford GT500 uses a DCT NOT an A10 like the Mustang GT. Psst could it be the DCT shifts faster!!!??? Hmmmm
 

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DCT is alot better for road courses because it downshifts alot faster, upshifts are very close with the A10, actually when the A10 came out it was touted as faster than porsche DCT's

https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm...ages/news/us/en/2016/may/0511-10speed-gm.html

  • Quicker shifts than a dual-clutch transmission – Testing has shown faster upshift times than the Porsche PDK dual-clutch transmission. In fact, the 1-2 upshift is 36-percent quicker than the PDK, while the 2-3 and 3-4 upshifts are 27-percent and 26-percent quicker, respectively.
 

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Thats with at least a PP1 car on Michelin tires.

I know damn well my car with an A10 on shit PZeros will NOT cut a 4 second 0-60.

Point im trying to make is a BASE A10 car that is NOT on Michelins will not do 0-60 in 4 flat.
definitely requires a drag strip, just like the c8 will to hit anywhere near its advertised 0-60 i am betting. If the c8 doesnt trap ~122+ its going to lose roll races to stock GT's lol. Gt500s will blow it out of the water
 

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Performance looks good (in theory). Exterior is beautiful and looks like a supercar. Price is competitive and on point.

On the other hand, the interior looks like crap. What's with the huge row of buttons and that ugly square steering wheel? What's with the floating tablet that looks like somebody pasted it to the dashboard as an afterthought (I hate that Mercedes and Mazda have this fetish too)? Almost as bad as Toyota's fetish for giant grills of death. Almost.

Much as I generally dislike GM, this looks like a solid car, my gripes about interior design aside. If Ford wants to keep making GT350s, they ought to consider slashing $10k off the price. The Bullitt too. GT500 too? Maybe. I dunno. The regular Mustang GTs and Ecoboosts are priced fine and will continue to sell like hotcakes, though.
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