MY18 is fast, VERY FAST!

[Gibbo205]

but for the price of an rs3 you could buy what 3 mustangs perhaps? plus its a family hatch not a fastback so doesn't even look slightly sporty

No I think they are around the same price, circa 45k or around 30k if buying one around 18 months old, big depreciation. But performance if that is your thing is pretty amazing.

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[CapitanPug]

No it won't. Even if it does, then just same tyre on Golf and your losing again. Mustangs really struggle to go sub 4s, MY18 is the first to achieve this, the MY15 are practically impossible to get under 4s unless on a drag/sticky tyre, that is hardly real world performance.

The Golf nails 0-60 in sub 4s in the wet, in the dry its closer to 3s. On Sunday a Golf R was running 11.3@121mph, 0-60 was 2.99s, 0-100 was 7.2s, sorry but Mustangs cannot match it and the Golf makes it so easily accessible, don't race one, it will hand you your ass from a stand still to legal speeds. But as said here, its not a Mustang, its quite dull and boring because its too good, looks like a Golf and it sounds well pretty crap and it farts.

My mates Golf R gets ‘pumped’ by my ‘Stang regularly!
Scampers away as expected, but once i reel him in at the top end, he’s done!
Might be his driving though, as he cant stay with the stang on the country roads over 125

 

[hinch]

No I think they are around the same price, circa 45k or around 30k if buying one around 18 months old, big depreciation. But performance if that is your thing is pretty amazing.

https://www.audi.co.uk/new-cars/rs/rs-3-sportback.html

thats a fucking estate car! and it has 4 doors I can even see them on the pictures.

can't even compare that to a stang in any way shape or form you want to be comparing GT class cars and in that segment they're all at least double the pricemustang.

Specced as close to the mustang as possible (basically everything standard apart from tweaked stereo) its a 51k car on the road last time I checked that was at least 10k more than an otr mustang and performance not even that much better!

 

[Gibbo205]

My mates Golf R gets ‘pumped’ by my ‘Stang regularly!
Scampers away as expected, but once i reel him in at the top end, he’s done!
Might be his driving though, as he cant stay with the stang on the country roads over 125

Driver. Though a stock Golf R is 4.5 to 60 and around 11s to 100 so very similar to a GT.

A tune on the GT does not transform performance being NA and all that. Whereas on a turbocharged motor tunes have a far greater impact on performance.

My GT custom tuned ran 113mph terminal with all the GT350 kit it ran 116mph.
The Golf with Stage 1 map 117mph and a Stage 2 car ran 121mph.

Having owned both and driven them both flat out the Golf is much quicker, after 130mph the Mustang would be closing the gap on the stage 1 Golf, Stage 2 would be close but difference being anything below 110 it's not close and if your going from a dig or low speed the Golf is just to quick to hold onto once they are mapped.

All my mods and all my launches at drag racing I never ran faster than a 12.9@116 and only got into 12's once.

First run in Golf was a 12 and I forgot to turn TC off so it died on the line but still ran a 12.8@116 and the second run I did a 12.2@116 with no LC. 3rd run with LC would of pipped the 11's I reckon and same day a Stage 2 ran 11.3@121 they are not slow. A stock GTR (2009) runs around 11.7@124 and the other great thing is you have this performance in wet and dry.

Drag racing is hard in a manual though, an automatic makes it easier, all wheel drive even more so.


P.S. Just getting the Golf R on Stage 2, it made 340HP before they started tweaking, so to run 117mph terminals with 340HP is pretty amazing considering it's doing 0-60 at present in 3.8s. Hoping once they finish the mapping it will be close too 400 horses and close to 3s flat to 60.

 

[23TGrabberBlue]

If only Ford did a car with a turbo 4-pot and AWD ... oh hang on. ;)

 

[Avalyn]

I think it's nuts these days you can go pick up an R for under 20K, apply some basic mods and tune (I mean we're only talking filter etc.) and you can have a near enough 400 BHP hatch that'll do 0-100 in under 10 seconds .. kicker is that it's going to be reliable too and the 0-100 will be almost repeatable time and time again with launch control

Back in my day, you picked up an imported Scooby for about the same price, and you'd have needed to spend thousands to get the same level of performance, unreliably :rant: never mind trying to insure the bugger. It would sound a hell of a lot better though

I did consider an RS3 when I was looking to change my car earlier this year, but apart from the 5 pot, it's almost identical inside to the S3, the flared arches etc. are not as pronounced as earlier models, so externally they don't look much different either. A standard one in primer grey is a very dull looking car (might not be a bad thing).

If you're looking to do drag runs though, it's a fantastic starting point.

What I have been missing in my last few cars is interaction, and fun (not speed) so I was 100% set on the car being a manual which you can't now get in an RS.

 

[Gibbo205]

If only Ford did a car with a turbo 4-pot and AWD ... oh hang on. ;)

They do, but unfortunately they are not near as quick, more fun to drive though as the AWD is a better system, but also too harsh in a daily, but still yet to see one run sub 13s in quarter mile. Was a Mountune 370HP one at Shakey, best he managed was a 13.5@107 and to be honest I wanted something a little softer and easier (dull) to drive throughout Winter, so had to be an automatic.

Just finished the custom mapping, she is now making 370HP and 390lbft thought I'd give LC another go, now it hooks up superb:

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This will keep me entertained until the new Mustang arrives, will be very glad to be back in a car thats an event to drive even if slower, the sound alone makes it worth it.

 

[Gibbo205]

I think it's nuts these days you can go pick up an R for under 20K, apply some basic mods and tune (I mean we're only talking filter etc.) and you can have a near enough 400 BHP hatch that'll do 0-100 in under 10 seconds .. kicker is that it's going to be reliable too and the 0-100 will be almost repeatable time and time again with launch control

Back in my day, you picked up an imported Scooby for about the same price, and you'd have needed to spend thousands to get the same level of performance, unreliably :rant: never mind trying to insure the bugger. It would sound a hell of a lot better though

I did consider an RS3 when I was looking to change my car earlier this year, but apart from the 5 pot, it's almost identical inside to the S3, the flared arches etc. are not as pronounced as earlier models, so externally they don't look much different either. A standard one in primer grey is a very dull looking car (might not be a bad thing).

If you're looking to do drag runs though, it's a fantastic starting point.

What I have been missing in my last few cars is interaction, and fun (not speed) so I was 100% set on the car being a manual which you can't now get in an RS.

Actually I did consider a TT RS and RS3 because of the 5 pot, sounds amazing, but I drove them both and the under steer really annoyed me and I was not interested in messing with suspension, roll bars etc. to try and resolve it. However they are insanely quick things! I found the Golf R had a nicer balance, no doubt due to engine being further back and lighter.

Just finished the mapping of the Golf R to Stage 2, the cost has being:
- Stage 2 custom map and DSG map: £750
- TT Inlet hose: £150
- Panel Filter: £30
- Downpipe with sports cat: £500

So £1500 all fitted has taken the car from 295HP / 280lb/ft upto 370HP and 390lb/ft.

0-60mph has gone from 4.5s to around 3.3s with LC and is around 3.8s without LC
0-100mph is now around 7.5s with LC and around 8s without it.
0-200kmh is around 12.5s with LC, circa 13s without.


Since the map, its much nicer, really strong up top now as it felt flat before after 4000rpm due to the huge torque, but the tuner made the torque curver flatter and gained a further 40 horsepower after 5000rpm.

He says a none LC run will now be around 11.9@120 and an LC run will be around 11.5s and kickdown now at 80mph is a lot more stronger great fun.

Its just gotta keep me entertained for the next six months until the orange huey arrives and mission to extra 500-550 horses NA starts and to keep that in the 11's in quarter mile solid hopefull at well over 120mph.

 

[Avalyn]

So basically, you have a reliable, sensible, family hatchback that's as quick 0-100 as a Porsche 911 turbo (996 model anyway) and will likely destroy it on B-roads too, especially as the DSG will always be in the right gear.

Absolutely bananas that's progress for you.

 

[Gibbo205]

So basically, you have a reliable, sensible, family hatchback that's as quick 0-100 as a Porsche 911 turbo (996 model anyway) and will likely destroy it on B-roads too, especially as the DSG will always be in the right gear.

Absolutely bananas that's progress for you.

Yep, here is a run to 130mph:
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Manders just sent me this, oh the orange, its lovely and works so well with black accents.

 

[Gibbo205]

I normally hate a wide body kit, but I am in love with the Roush 729, its the sexiest Mustang I have eyes on yet, even in a colour I dislike its just so right.

 

[marks]

Yep, here is a run to 130mph:




Manders just sent me this, oh the orange, its lovely and works so well with black accents.

That orange looks great, doesn't seem to have the catfish squished front of the 18s Ive seen.

 

[Jimboy2]

That orange looks great, doesn't seem to have the catfish squished front of the 18s Ive seen.

That’s because it’s a GT350 :lol:

 

[marks]

Right, so the 18 GT350 are not changing the front?

 

[Avalyn]

Love the small bonnet vent .. still not sure about the front grill especially the lower section ..

If someone asked me what creature I want the front of my car to resemble, I don't think catfish would be my first thought

At least it has character and is instantly recognizable .. when you see an R or S3 from the front you'd be hard pushed to tell it's not the 1.6TDi with the S-line or R pack. I guess for some that's part of the attraction

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