Almost 60K for Loaded 2018 GT

[Cgocifer]

So if you are sensible and not just flogging a dead horse then a reasonable price can easily be obtained.

Yup

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[Cgocifer]

↑↑↑ no better than starting from Ford.com (not bookmarked either). Still can't build.


Norm

That is weird. Have you tried a different web browser? Or, try deleting all your cookies.

 

[bootlegger]

301A costs $2000 for a slightly better radio and dual zone climate control. PerfPack is $4000 for a couple of braces, better tires/rims and different springs/shocks. Since Ford is not paying for the take-offs on those, the actual price difference is probably only a few hundred bucks.

301A is much more than a different radio and dual zone climate control. I won't pretend that it cost Ford $2k, but it is probably a standard markup when compared to other add-ons. But the base GT price increase is 100% justifiable. We make those fuel systems. They aren't cheap, even buying as a manufacturer.

 

[goldengooner]

Yup

So is the 16 better value for money
Put it this way I wanted a Fully Loaded California Special as it was way better then the Euro Stang in features and toys.
Now was that better value for money than a Fully Loaded new 18?

 

[Norm Peterson]

301A is much more than a different radio and dual zone climate control.

That may be, but if you don't care about the rest of the package (or actively don't want some of those other things) it isn't any different than being gouged the same amount on those two items if they were stand-alone options. Might be worse, considering that you're now paying more for each of the things you didn't want in the first place


Norm

 

[Norm Peterson]

That is weird. Have you tried a different web browser? Or, try deleting all your cookies.

Still wasn't working any better this morning, but all of a sudden without doing anything at all I can get to all those information pop-ups just like before (that's with either working from the link provided a few posts back or starting at Ford.com). Good thing, too, since I'm not internet/connectivity savvy enough to be comfortable trying to set up a second browser. I used to be able to delete individual cookies so I don't lose everything else, but Win 8 won't let me get at the cookies to do that. Thanks for trying to help.

More to topic, it seems a bit odd to me that neither the 301A nor either of the 400-series equipment groups offer a CD changer. I can see a single-CD player being base-level.


Norm

 

[TexArmageddon]

LMFAO all these posts crying about pricing... I called this nonsense on pricing the minute DI, 10 Spd Auto, magneride, and facelift were announced.... You have to pay to play... it was a given.

I'm sticking to my 2017... and will watch the return of 1st gen S197 days return little by little

 

[AlmostFamous]

LMFAO all these posts crying about pricing...

We aren't crying, we'll just buy another vehicle when the time comes.

 

[Norm Peterson]

LMFAO all these posts crying about pricing... I called this nonsense on pricing the minute DI, 10 Spd Auto, magneride, and facelift were announced.... You have to pay to play... it was a given.

I doubt that it's consumer demand bringing DI to market a little before it was fully ready for prime time. Ford may have felt that was the best way to narrow the HP gap relative to the competition, but the choice to do DI specifically didn't come from people like the members of this forum.

As to the 10A and magnetic ride, any time the mfr has even the slightest suspicion that more than just a few folks will buy those options mainly for those bragging rights, up goes the price.

I'm sticking to my 2017... and will watch the return of 1st gen S197 days return little by little

???


Norm

 

[Colleton]

IIRC, people on this forum have been asking for pretty much all of the new options for the past several years. I guess you have to pay to play.

I've played with the configurator over and over. I keep building a $51,565 Premium GT Fastback with 6MT, 401A (must have digital dash), ESP, GTPP, AVPE, S&SP, MagneRide, and Shaker Pro. In short, loaded out with everything except Recaros.

I think that's a bit much for "everyman's sports car". Then again, you don't have to buy one loaded out that way and you can build a base GT with all the performance bits for ~45K. I do think the options packaging and prices are pretty steep. As an example, I would want BLISS, but don't care about the other options in the S&S Package.

I'd probably want to wait until the PP2 specs are released before making a buying decision anyways. If I were going all the way, might as well go all the way.

 

[Cgocifer]

IIRC, people on this forum have been asking for pretty much all of the new options for the past several years. I guess you have to pay to play.

I've played with the configurator over and over. I keep building a $51,565 Premium GT Fastback with 6MT, 401A (must have digital dash), ESP, GTPP, AVPE, S&SP, MagneRide, and Shaker Pro. In short, loaded out with everything except Recaros.

I think that's a bit much for "everyman's sports car". Then again, you don't have to buy one loaded out that way and you can build a base GT with all the performance bits for ~45K. I do think the options packaging and prices are pretty steep. As an example, I would want BLISS, but don't care about the other options in the S&S Package.

I'd probably want to wait until the PP2 specs are released before making a buying decision anyways. If I were going all the way, might as well go all the way.

This is a perfect example of people wanting different things at different price points.

Mine is much different than yours: Base GT, 301A, PP1, Active Exhaust, done. $42k. I can survive without BLISS, that's what mirrors and windows are for. I don't care about the stereo as the exhaust is music enough for me. Once I get bored with that, I'll add 20" Project 6GR wheels, good tires, springs and shocks/struts. Customized 2018 GT for under $48k.

 

[TomcatDriver]

This is a perfect example of people wanting different things at different price points.

Mine is much different than yours: Base GT, 301A, PP1, Active Exhaust, done. $42k. I can survive without BLISS, that's what mirrors and windows are for. I don't care about the stereo as the exhaust is music enough for me. Once I get bored with that, I'll add 20" Project 6GR wheels, good tires, springs and shocks/struts. Customized 2018 GT for under $48k.

I think it comes down to the fact that a lot of the extra "stuff" is increasingly common as standard equipment on cars far lower down the totem pole. Big LCD screens, CarPlay/AA and various drivers assists are being included in mainstream Toyota, Honda, Hyundai cars either standard or as part of a very reasonably priced package. Paying more for extra HP is one thing, but paying a lot more for what is standard equipment on an Elantra (OK, slight exaggeration) rubs me the wrong way. Don't misconstrue, I'm not shopping for the biggest suite of safety nannies, but for comparison "Honda Sense" is only $1000 and includes Lane Keeping Assist, Adaptive Cruise Control, Collision Mitigation Braking, Road Departure Mitigation. A 7" CarPlay/AA head unit and Blind Spot Detection with Rear Cross-traffic Alert and Lane Change Assist are standard on an $18,850 Elantra SEL.

Kind of how a fingerprint reader was once a high-end cell phone feature and now almost all phones have. When it comes to electronics the normal progression is to get more for less.

I'm not afraid to pay for what something is worth, but if you look at other brands and how much comparable option packages cost, these are out of line.

 

[Cgocifer]

I think it comes down to the fact that a lot of the extra "stuff" is increasingly common as standard equipment on cars far lower down the totem pole. Big LCD screens, CarPlay/AA and various drivers assists are being included in mainstream Toyota, Honda, Hyundai cars either standard or as part of a very reasonably priced package. Paying more for extra HP is one thing, but paying a lot more for what is standard equipment on an Elantra (OK, slight exaggeration) rubs me the wrong way. Don't misconstrue, I'm not shopping for the biggest suite of safety nannies, but for comparison "Honda Sense" is only $1000 and includes Lane Keeping Assist, Adaptive Cruise Control, Collision Mitigation Braking, Road Departure Mitigation. A 7" CarPlay/AA head unit and Blind Spot Detection with Rear Cross-traffic Alert and Lane Change Assist are standard on an $18,850 Elantra SEL.

Kind of how a fingerprint reader was once a high-end cell phone feature and now almost all phones have. When it comes to electronics the normal progression is to get more for less.

I'm not afraid to pay for what something is worth, but if you look at other brands and how much comparable option packages cost, these are out of line.

Yeah, but those other cars don't go zero to sixty in 4 seconds. lol

You gotta pay for the HP and performance. Have to cut $$ somewhere.

 

[TomcatDriver]

Yeah, but those other cars don't go zero to sixty in 4 seconds. lol

You gotta pay for the HP and performance. Have to cut $$ somewhere.

Yea, that's why the base price of an 18 GT is $35K, and an Elantra and Accord is more like 18-22K. I'm assuming that's where the extra $13-17K goes.

 

[bootlegger]

More to topic, it seems a bit odd to me that neither the 301A nor either of the 400-series equipment groups offer a CD changer. I can see a single-CD player being base-level.


Norm

People still use CDs?

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