Almost 60K for Loaded 2018 GT

[Ninjak]

The equivalent of "Do you even lift bro?". This guy dreaming of being Dominic Toretto lmao.

Umm...because I actually drive my car for what is what meant for that makes me a fictional character. Hmm well no..since I do not street race..but since we are now in the Fast n Furious world, lets say another quote:
"Its not how you STAND next to your car its how you RACE your car."

His car is also the electronic package version...doesn't that mean it can't be tracked without going limp?

Yet someone else talking about something they have no clue about. Let me educate you. MY17GT350=two options: Tech pack (basically Recoro's seats, and Nav.) Convience Pack (basically leather electronics seats with heat/cold/Basic radio) ALL 17's are now TRACK PACK EQUIP as standard. Which means if you are not keeping up, I have ALL OF THE COOLERS AND EQUIPMENT A 15 or 16 TRACK PACK CAME WITH.

Hope that help so next time you comment on a subject trying to knock someone, you can actually do it with correct facts at least.

That's why you source multiple different magazine runs. They all have slightly different numbers, that when combined give you a very solid general idea of what a car can run. This is all objective data.

Or, you can be a straight up fanboy like Ninjak with your only comeback as "MEET ME AT THE TRACK BRAH!" who is angry that a $37,000 street car can keep up with his $60,000 track car on a drag.

As for track racing, as S550GTCS pointed out, it's all about the tires. When you match a SS 1LE against a GT350, the GT350 only wins by a couple seconds. The SS isn't even supposed to compete against the GT350 on a track, but it keeps it close. This isn't a testament to the GT350 being bad or slow in any way, but it's a testament to how good the SS actually is.

If you want a fair comparison, the ZL1 smokes the GT350 on a drag or a track, any day of the week.

Ninjak, suck on them facts, brah.

Yet again, if you would get your head out of a magazine, you would understand what I am saying. your supposed 37,000 street car can keep up with a 60,000k TRACK CAR
with someone that does not know how to drive it. Hell I have seen Hellcats lose to slighty modded GT's and Camaro's because the HC driver could not drive.

A few secs on the the 1/4 or the Track is a lifetime...especially on a track. If I run 1:52 per lap and you run 1:56 per lap, we do 5 laps, well lets do some math. How much did you lose by ? Heck if I run 12.1@119 and you run 12.4@115 how many car lengths did you just lose by ? See these are things that people know and understand when they GO TO THE TRACK. Magazines are great. Sure. But they are just informational reading of what the car potential could be. Even the lightning laps should be taken with a grain of salt because of how they are done.

Last the mighty ZL1. Oookk. Yes its fast. Yes it can go around a track well. But now lets get into a few things. The Zl1 does a lap well. It may even do a few laps well. How does it hold up in a session ? FI vehicles, exp S/C ones tend to heat soak on a track in a 20 min session. I have not seen a Zl1 do a session against other cars as of yet, so I do not know. Now in a straight line. Of course it should be faster than a GT350. The GT350 gearing and trans + the FPC engine was built for high rev's FOR THE TRACK. Plus its down a 100HP. So sure the ZL1 would win. But put it up agaisnt a GT500 13/14 and that's a different story in the 1/4.

The ZL1-1LE would even have a harder time in the 1/4 because of its areo. Its not slow, but would it beat say a GTR in 1/4 ? A HC ? or even a 13/14 GT500 ? Probably not. Now around the track sure its a beast. But again, for a street driven car its horrid. Stiff ride, not comfortable...but what do you expect from the type of track car GM built.

To put this all back on perspective of what the OP wrote, I will say it again. All of these wonderful cars with wonderful tech. If you want your car to do certain things your going to pay for it. Is the Zl1 40k ? No. is it 50k ? nope. Its 62k+. Get a 1LE package and its 71K+. Chevy is not giving away these wonderful toys.....your paying for them. So again if you want your 18 Mustang to hang, then you will need to pay. If you want your 17 to hang, then your going to need to mod. But that, is a different tale for a different day.

Hope that was enough FACTS

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[Commbubba19]

I will say this. What is on the internet pricing and the sheet is different for what you pay when you are sitting in front of them. For example I will use myself.

My GT350 Tech pack Black roof was marked up to 73.5k. I went in with our auto adviser and after we sat down with people, I walked out 2k under MSRP and no dealer fee's. So to everyone else there that day they thought I paid the ADM. But for a few who were in the loop, they know I did not pay anywhere near that.

Its all about sticking to what you want and how your going to pay. Also who your speaking to. Smart dealers, and I do mean smart dealers are not going to turn down good credit and money in hand to have a vehicle sit in their showroom for who knows how long.

The same will be for 18's. Sure they may start out crazy, but in very short order they will be selling like every other year of Mustangs.

WTF is an Auto Adviser? I think you meant 'Advisor'. Also, how much did you pay them to negotiate for you?

Most people don't have access to that kind of assistance when purchasing a new car.

 

[Ninjak]

WTF is an Auto Adviser? I think you meant 'Advisor'. Also, how much did you pay them to negotiate for you?

Most people don't have access to that kind of assistance when purchasing a new car.

Yeah yeah typo there.

The credit union here has the service. Free of charge if your a member. They basically go out and find cars for you, and dealers that will work with you. You set your terms and they find the car and dealer. You may still need to negotiate, but their purpose is for you to avoid that by hammering your terms up front. They also will bid on cars for you at auctions.

Purchasing my GT350 was the first time I ever used them. This is after a dealer screwed me out of a Ruby Red/Black roof combo. Someone said "just use our auto guys" Gave them a call and by that night they found several cars for me. I of course ended up with Sasha.

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

Sounds like someone had some chevy fanboy in him.

We were talking about the GT350. Not sure why you would post times of the GT350R and pretend it's the GT350 times.

ZL1 > GT350

Rock on, fanboy.

Umm...because I actually drive my car for what is what meant for that makes me a fictional character. Hmm well no..since I do not street race..but since we are now in the Fast n Furious world, lets say another quote

 

[millhouse]

We were talking about the GT350. Not sure why you would post times of the GT350R and pretend it's the GT350 times.

ZL1 > GT350

Rock on, fanboy.

Funny, I didn't realize there had been a head to head or track comparison of the standard GT350 to SS1LE or ZL1.

Oh wait, you're comparing track times again by different drivers on different days and spouting them as gospel. Pot meet kettle. Do you not realize that different days only can add (or subtract) several seconds on a lap?

Or, you can be a straight up fanboy like Ninjak with your only comeback as "MEET ME AT THE TRACK BRAH!" who is angry that a $37,000 street car can keep up with his $60,000 track car on a drag.
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Is the GT350R not the track version....and GT350 the street version? This is no different than the old "cobra" vs the "cobra R".

 

[SpeedLu]

$60k for a pony car is too much. These are supposed to be the working man's race car--fast and moddable, but affordable because it's made for the middle class. I get that it's got all sorts of new fancy smancies in it and you don't have to buy them if you don't want to, but $60k is losing sight of what it means to be a Mustang. Still, it's all relative and $60k will be the sweet spot for some buyers. Personally I'd start looking at other cars for that kind of money.

 

[Ebm]

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$60k for a pony car is too much. These are supposed to be the working man's race car--fast and moddable, but affordable because it's made for the middle class. I get that it's got all sorts of new fancy smancies in it and you don't have to buy them if you don't want to, but $60k is losing sight of what it means to be a Mustang. Still, it's all relative and $60k will be the sweet spot for some buyers. Personally I'd start looking at other cars for that kind of money.

You say $60k is too much for the car. Then you say you get you don't have to get all the fancy stuff. Well there you go. Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner folks! He just realized there are cheaper Mustangs you can buy.

If you haven't noticed, Ford is trying to expand their target buyer market. They have dirt cheap Mustangs, more expensive, but still good value Mustangs, and the all in Mustangs(top of the line). Btw, you reference middle class. I say what middle class? We won't have one pretty soon.

 

[Ninjak]

One more thing to add to the convo. I look at people posts who are saying that its a lot of money. Well sure I agree, prices have gone up. We will leave the whole tech argument out of it. Then I look at their signatures. I see mods list at least two lines long. HUH?

The true story to the Mustang is that they are now coming with many of the things we mod for. My GT350 has dam near everything. CAI ? Check. Brakes ? Oh yeah ! Suspension ? yep. Sure I can mod all of these things, but STOCK cars are coming not so STOCK compared to lets say 08. The 18 can have active exhaust. Really ??

The prices due to this new equipment have indeed went up. But when you consider how much you spend in the aftermarket, is it really that much more ? Sure, its cheaper. For us DIY people you save on having a shop doing it. But your still spending money, and in most cases sometime voiding the warranty. But alas that is another conversation to have.

Just something to consider.

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

Oh wait, you're comparing track times again by different drivers on different days and spouting them as gospel. Pot meet kettle. Do you not realize that different days only can add (or subtract) several seconds on a lap?

I have facts. You have raging fanboyism.

Stay mad, brah.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

I have facts. You have raging fanboyism.

Stay mad, brah.

Didnt think the first meme wasn't creative enough? Not cool enough? Both?

 

[millhouse]

I have facts. You have raging fanboyism.

Stay mad, brah.

I'd love to see those facts. I'd love to see the same day/driver comparison between the 1SSLE or the ZL1.

As usual, your posts are as classy as you are.

 

[TomcatDriver]

This thread is off the rails.

 

[ApollosWar89]

Umm...because I actually drive my car for what is what meant for that makes me a fictional character. Hmm well no..since I do not street race..but since we are now in the Fast n Furious world, lets say another quote:
"Its not how you STAND next to your car its how you RACE your car."


Oh, the irony in this response given your avatar is a picture of you standing next to your car....

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

Umm...because I actually drive my car for what is what meant for that makes me a fictional character. Hmm well no..since I do not street race..but since we are now in the Fast n Furious world, lets say another quote:
"Its not how you STAND next to your car its how you RACE your car."

Oh, the irony in this response given your avatar is a picture of you standing next to your car....

The guy is corny as hell. I'm waiting for him to say "I live my life a quarter mile at a time."

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

I'd love to see those facts. I'd love to see the same day/driver comparison between the 1SSLE or the ZL1.

As usual, your posts are as classy as you are.

Randy Pobst at Laguna Seca. ZL1 vs GT350R head to head:

"What about on the test track? In a straight line, the ZL1’s power advantage was apparent, though not at first. The Shelby hit 60 mph in 4.0 seconds compared to 3.8 for the ZL1."

"The quarter mile is where the power of the ZL1 overwhelms the R. The Shelby gets down the strip in 12.2 seconds with a trap speed of 119.0 mph. The Chevy rips down 1,320 feet in 11.8 seconds at 123.9 mph. Half a second and nearly 5 mph is pretty significant in drag racing circles."

As for actual track time? 1:27.90 for the ZL1. 1:28.29 for the GT350R.

There you have it, brah. Smoked, yet again. Same day. Same driver. You and fanboy ninjak just cannot accept reality.

You fanboys are hilarious. Keep on crying. Keep on fanboying. You don't care about facts, pure fanboyism. But once again, you do you.

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