ALL GT350/GT350R LEADS, ALLOCATIONS, DEPOSITS [READ FIRST POST]

[TheDeadCow]

They were asking pretty big ADMs on non-Rs ($20k) a while ago.

My R ADM was less than that.

They were asking $15-20k ADM earlier mid year for a non-R when I was looking. I'm guessing they're at $10k ADM on that R. Tempting but my non-R was at the end of my budget. Good looking out tho

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[wildcatgoal]

My offer still stands for my GT plus a bottle of Jameson for an R. Nobody's biting...

 

[ShadowBlackR]

My offer still stands for my GT plus a bottle of Jameson for an R. Nobody's biting...

What size bottle? :lol:

 

[Mike02z]

Not sure why so many people are looking to get an R. Has anyone looking at these actually driven one or have been a passenger? I was a passenger and that car would be hard to take for primarily street driving. Don't get me wrong, if it was for mainly track use I get it.

For those who mostly drive on the street, know going in that there is no sound deadening in the R. You hear ever little stone that hits the underside of the car. If you think the GT350 tramlines, it is nothing compared to an R. The car I rode in was a base R. No A/C! that may be OK if you live in areas that don't get heat but even in PA it was very uncomfortable at 80 degrees outside. Also note that if you are a big guy, the Recaro's will start hurting within a matter of about 15 minutes. The bolsters dig into your side. If your regular sized, your should be fine.

I understand the R is very limited but other than that, it would not be a fun car for me to drive on the street on a regular basis. YMMV

 

[machsmith]

Not sure why so many people are looking to get an R. Has anyone looking at these actually driven one or have been a passenger? I was a passenger and that car would be hard to take for primarily street driving. Don't get me wrong, if it was for mainly track use I get it.

For those who mostly drive on the street, know going in that there is no sound deadening in the R. You hear ever little stone that hits the underside of the car. If you think the GT350 tramlines, it is nothing compared to an R. The car I rode in was a base R. No A/C! that may be OK if you live in areas that don't get heat but even in PA it was very uncomfortable at 80 degrees outside. Also note that if you are a big guy, the Recaro's will start hurting within a matter of about 15 minutes. The bolsters dig into your side. If your regular sized, your should be fine.

I understand the R is very limited but other than that, it would not be a fun car for me to drive on the street on a regular basis. YMMV

I have a base R and it's the most fun on 4 wheels I've ever had. Smoother more quiet ride than my 2014 GT500. The only thing is if your roads suck it's gonna pull so you have to be on your toes on transitioning roads. Otherwise it's quiet, especially once you put it in 6th. If you put it in sport mode the exhaust is killer loud (I love it) and the ride is great
I wouldn't change the R for anything, even to DD. The only time it picks up rocks are when it's cold it seems...and when there are lots of sand/pebbles on the road. All thumbs up for me anyway, but I don't like a 1970s Cadillac ride.

 

[PP0001]

I have a base R and it's the most fun on 4 wheels I've ever had. Smoother more quiet ride than my 2014 GT500. The only thing is if your roads suck it's gonna pull so you have to be on your toes on transitioning roads. Otherwise it's quiet, especially once you put it in 6th. If you put it in sport mode the exhaust is killer loud (I love it) and the ride is great
I wouldn't change the R for anything, even to DD. The only time it picks up rocks are when it's cold it seems...and when there are lots of sand/pebbles on the road. All thumbs up for me anyway, but I don't like a 1970s Cadillac ride.

In addition to all of the great points that you made (especially the one with respect to the exhaust note in sport mode) the R model is 3 to 4 tenths of a second quicker 0 to 60 and also pretty much the same over a 1/4 mile in acceleration, better braking and on a skid pad the lateral G's is not even close with the R being at 1.10G.

Recently I was very fortunate to put quite a few miles on some 2015 Track Pack cars and enjoyed these cars immensely but after having driven my R models it was very clear to me that there was a big difference in driving experience at least it was for me with the above performance numbers confirming my driving experience.

 

[PatrickGT]

Yeah but you could swap to the same tire package the R has and get the same skidpad and acceleration benefits.

 

[Mike02z]

In addition to all of the great points that you made (especially the one with respect to the exhaust note in sport mode) the R model is 3 to 4 tenths of a second quicker 0 to 60 and also pretty much the same over a 1/4 mile in acceleration, better braking and on a skid pad the lateral G's is not even close with the R being at 1.10G.

Recently I was very fortunate to put quite a few miles on some 2015 Track Pack cars and enjoyed these cars immensely but after having driven my R models it was very clear to me that there was a big difference in driving experience at least it was for me with the above performance numbers confirming my driving experience.

All great things for a track car but don't people normally do 0-60 runs on the track? I'm assuming people hitting 1.10G are also not on the street. The R is an amazing track car but not an ideal street car for most GT350 buyers. Does that mean no one drives their R daily? No, but I bet those that do are in a small minority.

I feel that many people just want an R because it is the top of the food chain for Mustangs. All well and good if you have disposable cash. IMHO the majority of people could never take advantage of the differences between the regular GT350 and the R. Just my opinion.

 

[Tomster]

In addition to all of the great points that you made (especially the one with respect to the exhaust note in sport mode) the R model is 3 to 4 tenths of a second quicker 0 to 60 and also pretty much the same over a 1/4 mile in acceleration, better braking and on a skid pad the lateral G's is not even close with the R being at 1.10G.

Recently I was very fortunate to put quite a few miles on some 2015 Track Pack cars and enjoyed these cars immensely but after having driven my R models it was very clear to me that there was a big difference in driving experience at least it was for me with the above performance numbers confirming my driving experience.

Harry,

I just put some sticky tires and R spec wheels on my track pack for the Daytona track weekend. I've driven with and without sticky R compound on the track. Night and day difference.

I suggest that the wheels and tires are the vast majority of the difference.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70716&page=7

 

[czaustin]

its spoken for...

They didn't tell me the ADM.

 

[cattivo]

I feel that many people just want an R because it is the top of the food chain for Mustangs. All well and good if you have disposable cash. IMHO the majority of people could never take advantage of the differences between the regular GT350 and the R. Just my opinion.

Considering the wheels and other bits, it could be considered a bit of a value over the standard GT350...assuming one could get it at MSRP I pretty much DD mine, and if I could have found an R reasonably, I would have went that route.

 

[HISSMAN]

I have a son named Jameson. I'll trade him and my GT for an R... Kidding. I hate even typing that as a joke. I love my son more than life.. :-(

 

[TheDeadCow]

My offer still stands for my GT plus a bottle of Jameson for an R. Nobody's biting...

I have a son named Jameson. I'll trade him and my GT for an R... Kidding. I hate even typing that as a joke. I love my son more than life.. :-(

I think you two need to get together and go bowling

 

[PP0001]

Harry,

I just put some sticky tires and R spec wheels on my track pack for the Daytona track weekend. I've driven with and without sticky R compound on the track. Night and day difference.

I suggest that the wheels and tires are the vast majority of the difference.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70716&page=7

Tom, I certainly don't disagree that wheels and tires make up the vast difference as I have been racing cars since the early '80s and know how much of a difference they can make.

In the last 6 years I have between 10,000 and 11,000 miles of seat time in my Boss 302/Boss 302 LS cars and certainly can tell the difference between the Pirelli P Zero's and the P Zero Corsa's as they are like day and night with respect the grip and lateral adhesion especially when they are properly warmed up so I appreciate what stickier tires and bigger wheels do for handling especially these P Zero Corsa's with a treadwear rating of only 50.

The earlier reply talked only about a tire package making up all of the handling difference therefore not even worth replying to that response.

As many of us know the biggest difference between a GT350 and the R model from a roadholding standpoint is the difference in the treadwear rating of the tires, the larger/lighter wheels, larger tires, shorter springs and 25% stiffer front springs.

Obviously the stance of the R model sits at least 1/2" to 3/4" lower than a GT350 therefore the center of gravity being lower enhances better handling.

In addition we all know that the base R model is probably at least 100 pounds lighter than a Track Pack car based on CF wheels, removal of AC, radio, speakers, floor mats, rear seats, tire inflator/sealant kit, carpet sound deadener, etc.

It is my understanding that on a skidpad the GT350 obtains lateral acceleration of 0.98 g which is very good but the R model obtains lateral acceleration of 1.10 g and IMO this big difference cannot all be done with just a change wheels and tires.

Great to hear that you are enjoying your Track Pack GT350!!!

:cheers:

 

[Tomster]

Tom, I certainly don't disagree that wheels and tires make up the vast difference as I have been racing cars since the early '80s and know how much of a difference they can make.

In the last 6 years I have between 10,000 and 11,000 miles of seat time in my Boss 302/Boss 302 LS cars and certainly can tell the difference between the Pirelli P Zero's and the P Zero Corsa's as they are like day and night with respect the grip and lateral adhesion especially when they are properly warmed up so I appreciate what stickier tires and bigger wheels do for handling especially these P Zero's with a treadwear rating of only 50.

The earlier reply talked only about a tire package making up all of the handling difference therefore not even worth replying to that response.

As many of us know the biggest difference between a GT350 and the R model from a roadholding standpoint is the difference in the treadwear rating of the tires, the larger/lighter wheels, larger tires, shorter springs and 25% stiffer front springs.

Obviously the stance of the R model sits at least 1/2" to 3/4" lower than a GT350 therefore the center of gravity being lower enhances better handling.

In addition we all know that the base R model is probably at least 100 pounds lighter than a Track Pack car based on CF wheels, removal of AC, radio, speakers, floor mats, rear seats, tire inflator/sealant kit, carpet sound deadener, etc.

It is my understanding that on a skidpad the GT350 obtains lateral acceleration of 0.98 g which is very good but the R model obtains lateral acceleration of 1.10 g and IMO this big difference cannot all be done with just a change wheels and tires.

Great to hear that you are enjoying your Track Pack GT350!!!

:cheers:

I think I saw 1.08 and I didn't push the tires that hard maneuvering. The car had more, but the only difference between me and a wall was the tires. I did not care to go further at such a cost.

When you visit, I'd be happy to demonstrate the performance difference between wheels and tires.

I think I could have easily achieved 1.10 g

What value have you observed in your R's on the track?

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