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if going summer I recommend PSS if you can swing it. if not the new firestone Indy 500 and Kuhmo PS91 have been tested to be very close.

I put on PSS and have zero issues gripping in any gear (even first, which was a joke with the stock Pzero summers) and they honestly grip extremely well even in the cold 35-40* weather we've been having. Super quiet and comfortable too, and after about 6k miles they look brand new still front and rear.
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if going summer I recommend PSS if you can swing it. if not the new firestone Indy 500 and Kuhmo PS91 have been tested to be very close.

I put on PSS and have zero issues gripping in any gear (even first, which was a joke with the stock Pzero summers) and they honestly grip extremely well even in the cold 35-40* weather we've been having. Super quiet and comfortable too, and after about 6k miles they look brand new still front and rear.
The Indy 500 are actually really good. I second that.
 

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The Indy 500 are actually really good. I second that.
Damn, They dont offer a 305/XX/20 or a 295/XX/20 option. Would they even compare to the MPSS(or its new replacement) though?

I'm Running low on tread depth and with these new wheels coming in march I'm trying to come up with options.
 

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Tire rack tested them to be very, very close to the PSS. They've got a write up and test on them on their site. If I had not gotten my PSS on a really big sale I would have gotten those. I haven't heard anything negative about them.
 

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Tire rack tested them to be very, very close to the PSS. They've got a write up and test on them on their site. If I had not gotten my PSS on a really big sale I would have gotten those. I haven't heard anything negative about them.
Funny, I read the review and saw the test results and there wasn't even a mention to the Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...4WR9FHI5&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=217
 

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Damn, They dont offer a 305/XX/20 or a 295/XX/20 option. Would they even compare to the MPSS(or its new replacement) though?

I'm Running low on tread depth and with these new wheels coming in march I'm trying to come up with options.
I know there is a thread wildcat put up about the Indy 500 should be coming in a 305/35/20 I hope they do. They would be a awesome option in that price range.
 

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The tests (one of them) for the PSS was done in the same car, same general time of year/weather, same track and roads on there. It was about as apples to apples as you can get.
I found what I think you are trying to communicate here. Overall, pretty close.
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I was more looking at the lap times and such. I found my old spreadsheet for when I was shopping them. The values are dry/wet.

OEM Pirelli 118lb
PSS 116lb
Hankook 120lb
Kuhmo 124lb
Firestone 116lb


All tests on 14 328i sedan with near identical weather.

Slalom
PSS 5.0/5.44
Kuhmo 5.0/5.67
Firestone 4.95/5.65

Lap times
PSS 29.74/33.74
Kuhmo 29.94/34.71
Firestone 30.02/35.45

Stopping distance
PSS 78.1/111.9
Kuhmo 78.7/114.5
Firestone 80.3/121.8

Cornering
PSS .92/.78
Kuhmo .86/.76
Firestone .91/.75
 

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I was more looking at the lap times and such. I found my old spreadsheet for when I was shopping them. The values are dry/wet.

OEM Pirelli 118lb
PSS 116lb
Hankook 120lb
Kuhmo 124lb
Firestone 116lb


All tests on 14 328i sedan with near identical weather.

Slalom
PSS 5.0/5.44
Kuhmo 5.0/5.67
Firestone 4.95/5.65

Lap times
PSS 29.74/33.74
Kuhmo 29.94/34.71
Firestone 30.02/35.45

Stopping distance
PSS 78.1/111.9
Kuhmo 78.7/114.5
Firestone 80.3/121.8

Cornering
PSS .92/.78
Kuhmo .86/.76
Firestone .91/.75
Thats solid data.
 

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Still not sure if OP is looking for A/S or summer performance? If A/S, I'll put a plug in for the Conti DWS 06 also. I replaced my summer only Pirelli's with these and traction was better even in the hot summer. I never could get traction from the stock summer only Pirellis. I bought them last fall. They've done great in every environment, not noisy and after ~15k miles still have lots of tread. At ~14k on my Pirellis, they were low enough I was ok trashing them.
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