V6 to 5.0 Coyote engine swap

[zackmd1]

Not exactly sure why everyone is so against it. Yes getting a GT up front will be easier but if you stick with new then it's not cheaper. A 5.0 swap can be done for around $7-8k as long as you find the right deals on eBay and are capable of doing the work yourself. I have been researching this for awhile. Once my 6 is paid off this is likely what I will be doing.

To answer your questions though, the trans, computer, exhaust, and drive shaft have to/should be swapped. While the internals of the transmission are the same from V6 to V8, the bell housing bolt pattern is different.

This swap would not be easy but it's not completely crazy as some would like to believe. Cheaper then a supercharger and you get a way better sound.

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[ForTehNguyen]

buy a used base GT

 

[shawndean22]

he is trolling, cant just engine swap there is more to it then that. Suspension, driveshafts, trans, calibration. Just buy a GT. Going to be changing half the car out. There are specific GT parts, and even more if performance package.

 

[jasonstang]

Not exactly sure why everyone is so against it. Yes getting a GT up front will be easier but if you stick with new then it's not cheaper. A 5.0 swap can be done for around $7-8k as long as you find the right deals on eBay and are capable of doing the work yourself. I have been researching this for awhile. Once my 6 is paid off this is likely what I will be doing.

To answer your questions though, the trans, computer, exhaust, and drive shaft have to/should be swapped. While the internals of the transmission are the same from V6 to V8, the bell housing bolt pattern is different.

This swap would not be easy but it's not completely crazy as some would like to believe. Cheaper then a supercharger and you get a way better sound.

Like I said, the internal of the transmission is different too.
You gonna wear the V6 tranny faster with a V8 bolted to it.
The reason why against it is swapping cost too much money and it will make the car almost unsellable without taking a major hit if you decided to get a different car.

 

[15wile]

Here are your options:

1. Buy a V6 and go forced induction later. There's a guy who did this with an '11, I think, and called his car the "Killer 6." It embarrassed a lot of fast cars. But the big con here is that as soon as you slap on the supercharger or turbo... your warranty is gone. And you will NOT recoup that cost on resale, either. You'll wear out the car faster, too.

2. Buy a V8 now. Yes, more money. But you won't have to screw with it. As a pro, your warranty is intact, and your resale is better. The car will live longer. As a con, it'd probably still lose to a "Killer 6" at the strip.

But a Coyote swap is not a good financial decision. A Killer 6 would be cheaper, and a real factory V8 would be better.

 

[zackmd1]

Like I said, the internal of the transmission is different too.
You gonna wear the V6 tranny faster with a V8 bolted to it.
The reason why against it is swapping cost too much money and it will make the car almost unsellable without taking a major hit if you decided to get a different car.

The internals of the auto are the same. It is the bell housing that is different. No V6 tranny will even bolt to the 5.0 so there is no sense in worrying about the internals.

And yes this is not for the person who trades their car in after a few years. I don't plan on doing that. Having a paid off vehicle that I enjoy is more important to me then getting the latest and greatest. $8k for a V8 swap vs a new $35k car with accompanying car payments is more appealing. The point is, there are a lot of considerations that the OP needs to take into account and most likely it will be better if he buys a used GT. But a V8 swap is not as crazy as most want to believe for some reason.

 

[jasonstang]

The internals of the auto are the same. It is the bell housing that is different. No V6 tranny will even bolt to the 5.0 so there is no sense in worrying about the internals.

And yes this is not for the person who trades their car in after a few years. I don't plan on doing that.

The point is, there are a lot of considerations that the OP needs to take into account and most likely it will be better if he buys a used GT. But a V8 swap is not as crazy as most want to believe for some reason.

They are different internals.

 

[tritus]

Had to share this sorry lol.

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[zackmd1]

They are different internals.

My apologies, looks like I am wrong about the internals. You still will not be using the transmission though because of the different bolt pattern for the bell housing.

"The bellhousing bolt patern is different - dowel pins are same place

starter pocket is different also

It looks like we will not be able to swap 3.7L trans to a 5.0L

The good news is 5.0L is the same as current 4.6L"


"Transmission case is different - going to find out for sure but think its just internals
Input shaft is same for V8 and V6
front pump body is the same for v8 and v6
torque convertor is different
clutch pack/stacks are different - V6 uses less clutches

Since the input shaft and pump is the same I wonder why the use different convertors and if guys and swap V8 and V6 convertors

I will keep you posted with new findings

NEW INFO

output shaft is same 5.0 vs 3.7
driveshaft flange is the same 5.0 vs 3.7"

Source: http://mustangcollective.com/showthread.php?t=30982

 

[ForTehNguyen]

Is this real life?

is this just fantasy?

 

[zackmd1]

is this just fantasy?

Caught in a landslide

 

[MaskedRacerX]

$8k for a V8 swap vs a new $35k car with accompanying car payments is more appealing.

That comparison doesn't factor in some offsetting value for the V6 car[?] $25K for a V6 + $8K down the road for a swap - and even worse, the resulting car is worth about 50% (or less) vs. the equivalent OEM based V8 car.

Now factor in hassles, warranty, time, the $8K on what? A CC? ... the value comparison isn't even close.

 

[Goatdad]

Caught in a landslide

escape from reality.

 

[Coolmanfoo]

Caught in a landslide

No escape from reality

 

[magnetic16gt]

Anything is possible when you throw a budget out the window.

That being said, even with these conservative numbers being thrown around for the "everything went right" swap, you'd have GT premium money invested in a butchered V6 with no options and without a warranty. What would be the advantage? You would blend in with every other 5.0 car on the street, minus the resale value.

If I were to spend 10k+, I'd want my car to at least stand out from the thousands of identical vehicles on the road.

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