Gt500 vs Gt350

[svttim]

who says it won't? Just because Ford plans on building other Mustangs (Mach 1, Boss 302 etc) does not mean a GT500 isn't being developed. And I know you think you have 'insider' information, but you don't have nearly the intel some other guys here have.

A bit hostile are we? Maybe you should take the mind reader thing on the road. On second thought, youre not very good at it.

Just a feeling I have. That being said, I agree the name doesnt matter.

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[Shift]

This car could have been called a Pinto or Maverick and I would have "reassessed my priorities" to buy it. It's that good no matter what it's called.

We should have a thread where we post up the worst names we can think of, while still purchasing the car.

 

[DrumReaper]

GT350 was not Ford, it was Shelby.

We had a 13 GT500. Shelby didn't do any of the work on the car. I would have much rather called it an SVT Cobra. At least on the 13 / 14s, the cars had SVT branding all over them. Do the new GT350s have any SVT badging on them?

Let's not overlook the OBVIOUS! FORD is a business. And the bottom line is that a business cares about their bottom line. They obviously thought that the Shelby name would better market their cars to allow them to make more money or they wouldn't have PAID to use it!

End of story. Put all your opinions & speculations out there. You're entitled to your opinion. But as I've said, Ford would not have PAID for the Shelby name if they didn't think it would help Ford make $$$$$$. They didn't brand the cars as "Shelby" just for fun or for free.

Ford paid money because the only name that befitted this car was the GT350 moniker... It changed the game then, and it is changing it now.

As far as the 13/14 GT500 goes... You may wanna read this: http://www.torquenews.com/1084/carroll-shelbys-last-test-2013-shelby-gt-svt-team-video.

Come back and spew truth after you read that. There's no speculation there.

 

[cosmo]

Ford paid money because the only name that befitted this car was the GT350 moniker... It changed the game then, and it is changing it now.

As far as the 13/14 GT500 goes... You may wanna read this: http://www.torquenews.com/1084/carroll-shelbys-last-test-2013-shelby-gt-svt-team-video.

Come back and spew truth after you read that. There's no speculation there.

Shelby's business didn't develop the 13/14 GT500. That was outsourced to a different business. He was involved in direction discussion but only to the extent that he had to agree to the end vehicle result before he blessed his name on it.

Nowhere in that article does it mention his team developed anything. Only that he was involved with it and was there for the testing and gave approval of it.

 

[DrumReaper]

Hmmm... So, Carroll Shelby having direct input and then "signing off" on the 13/14 GT500 means it wasn't a true Shelby just cause his team didn't build it?... I call BS.

 

[cosmo]

Hmmm... So, Carroll Shelby having direct input and then "signing off" on the 13/14 GT500 means it wasn't a true Shelby just cause his team didn't build it?... I call BS.

That allowed Ford to put the Shelby nameplate on it, but I'm familiar with some of the engineers who worked on the design of the 5.8 and they didn't work for Shelby or Ford.

 

[DrumReaper]

Really?... Even though they had put the "GT500" moniker on all 2007-2012 GT500's?... Again, random mutterings...

 

[cosmo]

Really?... Even though they had put the "GT500" moniker on all 2007-2012 GT500's?... Again, random mutterings...

I don't know the engineers on the '07-'12 GT500s so I can't comment on those, perhaps Shelby's team had a more direct involvement in the development then.

 

[DrumReaper]

So, lemme get this straight... Carroll Shelby being directly involved and signing off on it is not enough... His team had to be involved in order for it to be legit?

If that's the case, then what is Shelby's "team" without Carroll Shelby himself?...

This trivial BS you guys are running around spouting off is crap. You all are just looking for an argument that is totally unsubstantiated by your beliefs, but when I show you where Shelby himself had direct involvement you deny that as a true Shelby cause his team wasn't involved. Lol.

Good luck win lifelong semantics and trivialisms man.

 

[cosmo]

So, lemme get this straight... Carroll Shelby being directly involved and signing off on it is not enough... His team had to be involved in order for it to be legit?

If that's the case, then what is Shelby's "team" without Carroll Shelby himself?...

This trivial BS you guys are running around spouting off is crap. You all are just looking for an argument that is totally unsubstantiated by your beliefs, but when I show you where Shelby himself had direct involvement you deny that as a true Shelby cause his team wasn't involved. Lol.

Good luck win lifelong semantics and trivialisms man.

Not sure why you're so upset about this. If an engineering/automotive firm doesn't engineer something then no, I wouldn't give them credit for designing it. You can sign your name off of something all you want but unless you or the team that works for you actually did the work why should you get any of the credit for the work done?

Shelby's "team" obviously is still going as their has been about 4 different Shelby Mustang's released. Shelby GT, Shelby Super Snake, Shelby GT-H, Terlingua, those are all Shelby developed Mustangs. The GT500 just had the nameplate for sales.

Shelby did great things in his past and I commend him for being involved in these past few Shelby's, especially for being so close to death. That's passion. But he was there for spirit and for the nameplate, he and his team didn't design them (at least the 13-14 GT500 and GT350). So I'm not going to give him credit for designing them.

 

[DrumReaper]

Not sure why you're so upset about this. If an engineering/automotive firm doesn't engineer something then no, I wouldn't give them credit for designing it. You can sign your name off of something all you want but unless you or the team that works for you actually did the work why should you get any of the credit for the work done?

Shelby's "team" obviously is still going as their has been about 4 different Shelby Mustang's released. Shelby GT, Shelby Super Snake, Shelby GT-H, Terlingua, those are all Shelby developed Mustangs. The GT500 just had the nameplate for sales.

Shelby did great things in his past and I commend him for being involved in these past few Shelby's, especially for being so close to death. That's passion. But he was there for spirit and for the nameplate, he and his team didn't design them (at least the 13-14 GT500 and GT350). So I'm not going to give him credit for designing them.

I'm not upset... Just looming over the idea that you are stating that Shelby's legacy was hooniganed by Ford for a financial gain. That's an unsibstantiated declaration, and now you're modifying your stance by saying since Shelby's team didn't design it that Shelby doesn't get homage.

That's ludicrous man. You're impossible...

Maybe Carroll Shelby's signature on the many dash plates he signed means absolutely nothing because his team should've signed it, as well, for it to be something legit.

You're reaching, and you're grasping at junk. The 13/14 500's were Shelbys... The 15-17 350's are Shelbys... Nuff said. Maybe Ford should've walked off 350 steps for the 350 production facility to make it more honest, eh? Lol.

 

[cosmo]

I'm not upset... Just looming over the idea that you are stating that Shelby's legacy was hooniganed by Ford for a financial gain. That's an unsibstantiated declaration, and now you're modifying your stance by saying since Shelby's team didn't design it that Shelby doesn't get homage.

That's ludicrous man. You're impossible...

Maybe Carroll Shelby's signature on the many dash plates he signed means absolutely nothing because his team should've signed it, as well, for it to be something legit.

You're reaching, and you're grasping at junk. The 13/14 500's were Shelbys... The 15-17 350's are Shelbys... Nuff said. Mate Ford should've walked off 350 steps for the 350 production facility to make it more honest, eh? Lol.

:shrug: If that's the way you wanna look at it, go for it. I know what really happened and that's exactly what happened. They brought back the Shelby nameplate to try to spark the same excitement as his old cars did and succeeded. He wouldn't let them unless he gave his approval of the car in the final state.

 

[MAV]

Shelby wasn't involved in the SVT Cobra programs in the 90s-2000s, thus his name wasn't on the cars. Shelby was involved in the GT500/GT350 programs, thus his name is on the cars.

One of these is "more Shelby" than the other one. I'd go with the one that bears his name.

 

[DrumReaper]

:shrug: If that's the way you wanna look at it, go for it. I know what really happened and that's exactly what happened. They brought back the Shelby nameplate to try to spark the same excitement as his old cars did and succeeded. He wouldn't let them unless he gave his approval of the car in the final state.

Wow... You just stayed what I've said all along. What a trip.

 

[cosmo]

Wow... You just stayed what I've said all along. What a trip.

Key word being "develop" as I stated in my first post. He and his team didn't develop it. That's my whole point. They signed off on the nameplate.

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