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[Papaya]

I have no idea why someone thinks that a forum would be ruined when people like me, do not like salesman asking over MSRP? Don't get me wrong. There are people out there, they would pay a lot more money, only to get a collector car. Jay Leno would be one of this people. But I think he has already one and got it for free, because he is Jay Leno. If a dealer in Edmonton would get a Mustang LE, it would be nice to see it. But for a daily driver? I don't have that money to through it out of the window. And yes! A sales guy can ask if someone would pay $10,000 over MSRP - but he has also to deal with the answers he gets. And in the mustang6g forum are a lot people they know Mustang prices. So I am not surprised that some members including me asking if he is joking around. Specially in the USA, people should look at there dollars. Car dealers and banks do not have the best name after 2008. A lot of poor people lost everything because they believed what car dealers and banks told them. Ended up with a big meld down.

*But yes. Times are good now again and you should pay much more than the car has on "value". No bank should finance that - but hey - I am sure we can "fix" the income on the bank form again. :tsk:

I can only say that customers should be more careful what they signing.:threadjacked:

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[Tamadrummer88]

Some people seem to be confusing capitalism with how much money you can screw out of an individual. Explains a lot about our state of affairs the past few years. If you want to talk embarrassment. I am embarrassed for dealers who price gouge because they are allowed to operate as a cartel. I'm embarrassed for anyone who carries water for said dealers based on appropriated phrases and concepts they seem to know little about, or because they're also unnecessary middlemen. I'm embarrassed for people who think this forum is ruined (melodramatic much?) because it has informed consumers.

Bottom line: They are free to attempt to sell it at any price. But people are also free to criticise them for their practices. So what's the problem?

Very well said.

 

[valentinoamoro]

^^ +1.
Free markets and freedom of speech needs to work both ways if its to have any merit...You dont have to buy a car or sell a car (or have direct experience with something) to have an opinion about it. Otherwise this forum would have been a pretty drab place for a long time, esp given we've been hanging around here for months opining away for a product that we're only getting to experience since the last few weeks.


Side note - I dont 'get' the excitement of the LE's at all. Again, my opinion, but a valuable performance car is one that is truly special in more ways than some wheels, interior options and grills - latter is kinda strange looking although i do like the rear quarter windows (basically, cosmetics). The Boss Laguna Seca, now we're talking. Same with the Z28 from Chevy. Not sure what folks buying the LE's as investments are expecting. If you like the look or the auto with PP of course that's a different matter.

 

[Husker]

Side note - I dont 'get' the excitement of the LE's at all. Again, my opinion, but a valuable performance car is one that is truly special in more ways than some wheels, interior options and grills - latter is kinda strange looking although i do like the rear quarter windows (basically, cosmetics). The Boss Laguna Seca, now we're talking. Same with the Z28 from Chevy. Not sure what folks buying the LE's as investments are expecting. If you like the look or the auto with PP of course that's a different matter.

I agree with your assessment.

I'm purchasing a LE. Not as an investment (Mine are in the Market & Realestate) but to have something a little different, not (((LOUD LOOKING))) as in stripes or color (Boss, GT500, Yellow/Orange, Grabber, Outrageous Wheels, etc.) my last mustang was a 12 Boss, people were always staring at it & me even while sitting at stop lights. Used to think it was cool, it's OK to be noticed by "Car Guys & Gals" who know a thing or two about cars as opposed to being stared at by everyone and feeling uneasy by gawkers because it's a "Look at me Color/Stripes"...

BTW, nothing wrong for those who do have the Loud Looking cars, I've owned many, I still Love em and always notice a Yellow Saturn coming at me way before I notice a Grey Vette...This is what happened to me as I continue to age-->

 

[jmstang66]

haha this is funny...I work at a Mustang shop and this was one of our customers cars...told him he was effin crazy not taking it just because of the damn #!

 

[Backorder]

The LE isn't for me, but thanks for posting to the forum. I am sure there is someone out there that'll buy it. I feel if I bought the LE I wouldn't want to drive it as much and try to keep miles off it since it doesn't really have much on the performance front that would make me track it like I would want and it's limited...I'm weird like that though!

I have nothing against a dealer trying to make money off a limited production car, I just hope when the GT350 comes out that I find one willing to sell it to me at MSRP as it will already be near the top of my budget. Maybe being the first guy on the list will give me a leg up on that...


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[Backorder]

Also, this guy/dealership isn't terrible. He lent a helping hand to the guy looking for a specific # LE...even though it is definitely not his dealership.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=154370


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[PsyopGoat]

:doh: Thank you for making my point for me. You are the perfect example of it. I'm melodramatic as you speak to dealer cartels screwing helpless victims out of their money for the opportunity to own upon their free will what is likely one of the most special cars Ford has ever offered for sale. You want to call me out because yes I don't know anything, I haven't run businesses for the past 20 years, or worked for successful Ford dealers in the past, I have no right to voice my opinion of what as of late has become a recurring group of negative posters on this forum. You want to call me out, fine. I'm calling you out Mr. I just signed up in October and have contributed 10 posts. This is why I'm now done with this thread as well.

FYI a dealer has a sought after vehicle and came on this forum to see if someone was interested, they did not come here to be told how to operate their business. It's obvious you will not be buying one, so there is no need for you to comment when it does not add to the discussion. If you were an informed consumer you would know that the majority of unclaimed LE's are going for Market Value currently and as the numbers become less people will be willing to pay for a vehicle they find value in.

Nobody told him how to how to operate his business. Some of us have said we refuse to buy from anyone who sells cars with dealer markup. I did not come here to be told how to be a buyer. See how that works?

Asking for dealer markup pisses off some buyers. Guess what, that's the free market at work. Yes, he's absolutely allowed to come to this forum and advertise marked up vehicles, but being free to run his business as he pleases does not mean being free from receiving criticism. The autonomy to act and speak as you please goes both ways.

Some dealerships have a policy of no dealer markup, ever. They should be rewarded. Dealers who markup vehicles with little euphemisms like "fair market adjustment" or "dealership addendum" should be punished financially. If enough buyers don't agree and they still make money, more power to them. They're just not going to get my money, nor the money of my friends and family should I be giving them advice.

If I owed a Ford dealership and was allotted one or more LE Mustangs, I'd hold an open house event with food, music and entertainment and have a raffle for the right to buy it at MSRP.

 

[Strokerswild]

I'll take the Demon Stang.

Can't be any worse than my GT500 was.

 

[subtle]

:doh: Thank you for making my point for me. You are the perfect example of it. I'm melodramatic as you speak to dealer cartels screwing helpless victims out of their money for the opportunity to own upon their free will what is likely one of the most special cars Ford has ever offered for sale. You want to call me out because yes I don't know anything, I haven't run businesses for the past 20 years, or worked for successful Ford dealers in the past, I have no right to voice my opinion of what as of late has become a recurring group of negative posters on this forum. You want to call me out, fine. I'm calling you out Mr. I just signed up in October and have contributed 10 posts. This is why I'm now done with this thread as well.

You never had a point to begin with so please stop waxing this pseudo-intellectual bull$hit about him making it for you.

Also, HTF does post count and forum join date have anything to do with the validity or weight of one's opinion? Please elaborate. I see forum monkey bullies like you whip out this line all the time when they disagree with someone that has recently joined and it's just laughable at best.

Please explain this "market value" term you like to throw around so often. Who determines this supposed elusive "market value"? It certainly isn't the buyer. No buyer wakes up one day and says "gee...you know...offering $10k over MSRP seems like a great deal for me". This ridiculous price gouging and dealer markup does not equate to a "market value". Just because dealers want to collude with one another and decided that the baseline markup for the LE would be $10k does not mean that this magically now becomes the current "market value" for the car. Just because a handful of ignorant humans have zero willpower these days and live by this have to have it now mentality willingly bending over for dealers and taking it at full length doesn't mean that this now miraculously becomes the new standard asking price for the LE.

What so many dealers, for decades now, have completely glossed over and ignored, in an effort to bilk their fellow man out of a few extra thousand dollars all in the name of "capitalism", is this simple respectable trait known as integrity. Very few dealers have this fundamental trait anymore thus the existence of the car dealer stereotype.

 

[subtle]

Some people seem to be confusing capitalism with how much money you can screw out of an individual. Explains a lot about our state of affairs the past few years. If you want to talk embarrassment. I am embarrassed for dealers who price gouge because they are allowed to operate as a cartel. I'm embarrassed for anyone who carries water for said dealers based on appropriated phrases and concepts they seem to know little about, or because they're also unnecessary middlemen. I'm embarrassed for people who think this forum is ruined (melodramatic much?) because it has informed consumers.

Bottom line: They are free to attempt to sell it at any price. But people are also free to criticise them for their practices. So what's the problem?

I haven't the slightest clue how this does not make complete sense to anyone that reads it.

 

[OH5GT 2 S550]

You could start your own website if you got this car. You could call it mustang666g.com!

 

[CA Stang]

You never had a point to begin with so please stop waxing this pseudo-intellectual bull$hit about him making it for you.

Also, HTF does post count and forum join date have anything to do with the validity or weight of one's opinion? Please elaborate. I see forum monkey bullies like you whip out this line all the time when they disagree with someone that has recently joined and it's just laughable at best.

Please explain this "market value" term you like to throw around so often. Who determines this supposed elusive "market value"? It certainly isn't the buyer. No buyer wakes up one day and says "gee...you know...offering $10k over MSRP seems like a great deal for me". This ridiculous price gouging and dealer markup does not equate to a "market value". Just because dealers want to collude with one another and decided that the baseline markup for the LE would be $10k does not mean that this magically now becomes the current "market value" for the car. Just because a handful of ignorant humans have zero willpower these days and live by this have to have it now mentality willingly bending over for dealers and taking it at full length doesn't mean that this now miraculously becomes the new standard asking price for the LE.

What so many dealers, for decades now, have completely glossed over and ignored, in an effort to bilk their fellow man out of a few extra thousand dollars all in the name of "capitalism", is this simple respectable trait known as integrity. Very few dealers have this fundamental trait anymore thus the existence of the car dealer stereotype.

To help explain your question as to market value. Market Value is the amount for which something can be sold on a given market. So if consumers are out their purchasing the car for 10K over MSRP, then the market value is 10K over MSRP. Same as if nobody was buying them at MSRP and they had to be sold for 2K under MSRP, then the market value would be 2K under MSRP. To answer your question as to who sets this "market value"...well that is us as consumers. The dealerships sets an asking price, and we then react as consumers and either buy, or don't buy, those creating the market value. It's a pretty simple concept. It's pretty much how a stock market works. You have a "bid" price (the price at which someone is willing to pay for a given stock) and you have an "ask" price (the price at which the owner of said stock is willing to sell) and when the two line up, you have a transaction. You act like the car dealerships are doing you this great injustice by asking over MSRP for a limited edition car, when 99% of the vehicle sold throughout the year are sold for far under MSRP most likely. I'm sure when you buy a car you don't say "Well I'll pay MSRP because that's what is on the sticker" I'm sure you try to haggle the price down. Would it be fair to say the dealership is then bending over and taking it at full length from you because you didn't pay full MSRP?

 

[phil1336]

Seems to me that there are (2) separate issues being tossed about on this topic. First, the outrage that some have of Dealers selling a Limited Edition 2015 Mustang for OMG up to 10K "over" Invoice? First of all for those low intelligence complainers, there are only (1964) being made! Supply and demand! You pay, you get, you can`t or won`t pay, you don`t get. Buy another Version, simple. On the matter of the VIN number ending in "666", who the heck old enough to be able to purchase and drive this Vehicle still believes in Fairytales? First of all, the so called Devils Numbers is supposed to be 616 (not) 666. Would you move out of Topeka, Kansas cause their Zip Code is 66601?

 

[Husker]

Seems to me that there are (2) separate issues being tossed about on this topic. First, the outrage that some have of Dealers selling a Limited Edition 2015 Mustang for OMG up to 10K "over" Invoice? First of all for those low intelligence complainers, there are only (1964) being made! Supply and demand! You pay, you get, you can`t or won`t pay, you don`t get. Buy another Version, simple. On the matter of the VIN number ending in "666", who the heck old enough to be able to purchase and drive this Vehicle still believes in Fairytales? First of all, the so called Devils Numbers is supposed to be 616 (not) 666. Would you move out of Topeka, Kansas cause their Zip Code is 66601?

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"Who Purchased The LEs?"
When After All
It was You and Me
Let me Please Introduce Myself
I'm a Man of Wealth and Taste​

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