Which CAI?

[D.Brown]

Excellent, thanks for that. I think I am down to JLT, PMAS, and Steeda. Leaning towards the JLT at the moment. The only thing deterring me from the Steeda is having to modify the stock airbox. I don't have a sawzall to cut it and if I were to mess it up, I would be unhappy.

Invest in a Dremel. Well worth the money. I did not like my JLT and didn't see any performance gains when I dynoed my car, which is why I got rid of it. That and mine had this super annoying whistle at part throttle that I couldn't stand. I'm currently enjoying my stock airbox with a K&N drop in.

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[djpheer]

Excellent, thanks for that. I think I am down to JLT, PMAS, and Steeda. Leaning towards the JLT at the moment. The only thing deterring me from the Steeda is having to modify the stock airbox. I don't have a sawzall to cut it and if I were to mess it up, I would be unhappy.

I am horrible at installing anything or working with my hands and I installed the Steeda myself. My first mod install ever on any car. (i always usually have my friends do it) The cutting part scared me, but, it doesn't have to be an exact cut or even straight. Mine was crooked and the plug you have to put in the hole still fits snugly. i didn't even use any power equipment. I cut mine with a hacksaw. Don't let the cutting scare you! When you see what you have to do in person it is so easy. Now the nightmare is getting that stupid rubber lip around the top of the box. THAT is a nightmare. Have somebody help you with that. I had my wife assist.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Excellent, thanks for that. I think I am down to JLT, PMAS, and Steeda. Leaning towards the JLT at the moment. The only thing deterring me from the Steeda is having to modify the stock airbox. I don't have a sawzall to cut it and if I were to mess it up, I would be unhappy.

I don't have a sawzall either and did it at my kitchen table. I used a serrated edge knife and took all of 1 minute to do the cutting.

The install is really, really easy. Go Steeda and PM [MENTION=10893]David@Steeda[/MENTION]and tell him I sent you. He will take good care of you on the pricing and you won't be disappointed, I promise.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

I am horrible at installing anything or working with my hands and I installed the Steeda myself. My first mod install ever on any car. (i always usually have my friends do it) The cutting part scared me, but, it doesn't have to be an exact cut or even straight. Mine was crooked and the plug you have to put in the hole still fits snugly. i didn't even use any power equipment. I cut mine with a hacksaw. Don't let the cutting scare you! When you see what you have to do in person it is so easy. Now the nightmare is getting that stupid rubber lip around the top of the box. THAT is a nightmare. Have somebody help you with that. I had my wife assist.

If you set the weather stripping out in the sun for an hour or 2, it goes on sooooooooooo easy.

 

[Vinny@JLTPerformance]

The PMAS and Roush intakes are very well engineered, so that doesn't surprise me. I have however noticed many people deeply dislike JLT for some reason.

Truth be told there's more independent test of the JLT intake system than all of the other systems on the market COMBINED.

Our kits come ready to install, with step by step directions, install videos. The systems are very well respected kits among the biggest shops in the business.

Some people don't like Jay because Jay won't be bullied on social media by goons downing his product with hearsay. It rubs some people the wrong way, but people troll all day long but hate when you throw it back at them. People will jump on any bandwagon and when you throw facts at them all you get is :crickets:

We've been in the Mustang Market a long time, and there's no doubt you're getting as advertised product when you purchase any JLT part. Since the S550 release we have sold over 3500 S550 GT intake systems, it's not because they don't work.

This forum is literally flooded with these intake threads, it's exhausting not only to the members but to the vendors. I don't even jump into many of them anymore, and I see most of the other manufactures don't either.

If you have any questions feel free to PM or post.

 

[Bluemustang]

I don't have a sawzall either and did it at my kitchen table. I used a serrated edge knife and took all of 1 minute to do the cutting.

The install is really, really easy. Go Steeda and PM [MENTION=10893]David@Steeda[/MENTION]and tell him I sent you. He will take good care of you on the pricing and you won't be disappointed, I promise.

Thanks man! David from Steeda already contacted me and offered me a nice deal. Real nice guy. I like the look of the Steeda the best and it even has a hole at the bottom of the airbox in case any water would find its way in, so that's a bonus.

Steeda CAI it is. Order placed! Really excited about this. This will be my first mod to install myself and I am looking forward to it! Should really round out the engine bay looks too.

Thanks for your advice. It put me at ease.

 

[HISSMAN]

Thanks man! David from Steeda already contacted me and offered me a nice deal. Real nice guy. I like the look of the Steeda the best and it even has a hole at the bottom of the airbox in case any water would find its way in, so that's a bonus.

Steeda CAI it is. Order placed! Really excited about this. This will be my first mod to install myself and I am looking forward to it! Should really round out the engine bay looks too.

Thanks for your advice. It put me at ease.

Good deal! I'm most likely leaning towards JLT, as I even had a tune done for one by Lund in advance of me even making the purchase. Just waiting till my budget says "buy it!!"

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[4V Mayhem]

Truth be told there's more independent test of the JLT intake system than all of the other systems on the market COMBINED.

Our kits come ready to install, with step by step directions, install videos. The systems are very well respected kits among the biggest shops in the business.

Some people don't like Jay because Jay won't be bullied on social media by goons downing his product with hearsay. It rubs some people the wrong way, but people troll all day long but hate when you throw it back at them. People will jump on any bandwagon and when you throw facts at them all you get is :crickets:

We've been in the Mustang Market a long time, and there's no doubt you're getting as advertised product when you purchase any JLT part. Since the S550 release we have sold over 3500 S550 GT intake systems, it's not because they don't work.

This forum is literally flooded with these intake threads, it's exhausting not only to the members but to the vendors. I don't even jump into many of them anymore, and I see most of the other manufactures don't either.

If you have any questions feel free to PM or post.

I don't blame him for being upset. Especially when you put a quality product out but have to watch members tell people all day every day that intakes do absolutely nothing. JLT makes quality parts. And I think they give pretty decent gains on par with the other top products. But I also think that not everyone will always have those same results. For example, I have seen people say they swapped out the JLT for Steeda and the Steeda was better. I have also heard the other way around. Different cars, different areas of the country, and different people will have different results. That is basic and should be expected. But when people constantly bash companies and then put down other members for buying those products, then that would piss me off too. Should you expect 40 hp and 5/10s off your time? No. Will a JLT increase performance and give you noticeable improvement in throttle response, hp/tq, and acceleration in DDing? Absolutely. JLT has been on the market and has made great products for a long time now. They aren't still around because of making BS and pushing snake oil.

 

[Vinny@JLTPerformance]

I don't blame him for being upset. Especially when you put a quality product out but have to watch members tell people all day every day that intakes do absolutely nothing. JLT makes quality parts. And I think they give pretty decent gains on par with the other top products. But I also think that not everyone will always have those same results. For example, I have seen people say they swapped out the JLT for Steeda and the Steeda was better. I have also heard the other way around. Different cars, different areas of the country, and different people will have different results. That is basic and should be expected. But when people constantly bash companies and then put down other members for buying those products, then that would piss me off too. Should you expect 40 hp and 5/10s off your time? No. Will a JLT increase performance and give you noticeable improvement in throttle response, hp/tq, and acceleration in DDing? Absolutely. JLT has been on the market and has made great products for a long time now. They aren't still around because of making BS and pushing snake oil.

This is very much flavor of the month type of stuff. Results can vary vehicle to vehicle, dyno to dyno, tune to tune etc.

Looks like the latest and greatest intake system put the same power down the majority of them do in their independent test.

We've always claimed 12-15whp over the stock box with on the MAF transfer function change for the larger housing.

Bama's test tune only and then adding JLT.

Thread:
http://mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11053&highlight=jlt+dyno

Board member Anthony's results, which he had graphs but deleted them all when he got banned :(

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=385153&postcount=171


Our very own 2015 GT, we base lined our car on a dyno dynamics and dyno jet, it made 381-384whp on both.

Another local customer's 2015 GT that allowed us to test on the dyno, this car had 250 miles on it at testing! Intake and tune

SVT Performance's testing, JLT picked up 11whp peak over tune only.

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[David@Steeda]

Thanks man! David from Steeda already contacted me and offered me a nice deal. Real nice guy. I like the look of the Steeda the best and it even has a hole at the bottom of the airbox in case any water would find its way in, so that's a bonus.

Steeda CAI it is. Order placed! Really excited about this. This will be my first mod to install myself and I am looking forward to it! Should really round out the engine bay looks too.

Thanks for your advice. It put me at ease.

Happy to have you on board! We'll get that shipped out to you asap! Looking forward to your feedback once installed. :cheers:

 

[Five Oh Brian]

I installed a C&L CAI on my '03 Mach 1, JLT CAI on my '07 GT, and a Steeda CAI on my '11 GT. All products were very high quality and looked awesome under the hood. They were worth every penny I paid just for the bling factor when I popped the hood. None of these CAI's added any performance to the cars, but that's not what I was after. Much like I changed mufflers on all of these cars just for a deeper/louder exhaust note. It's okay to add mods that don't add performance, just as long as you know you won't be getting any extra performance!

 

[4V Mayhem]

This is very much flavor of the month type of stuff. Results can vary vehicle to vehicle, dyno to dyno, tune to tune etc.

Looks like the latest and greatest intake system put the same power down the majority of them do in their independent test.

We've always claimed 12-15whp over the stock box with on the MAF transfer function change for the larger housing.

Bama's test tune only and then adding JLT.

Thread:
http://mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11053&highlight=jlt+dyno

Board member Anthony's results, which he had graphs but deleted them all when he got banned :(

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=385153&postcount=171


Our very own 2015 GT, we base lined our car on a dyno dynamics and dyno jet, it made 381-384whp on both.



SVT Performance's testing, JLT picked up 11whp peak over tune only.

See attachement

LOL, thanks for all the info and the irrefutable data. Good to see nice solid gains. I have the Airaid CAI on my 15 GT but I'm gonna try the JLT just for comparison purposes. Good to see people are getting solid results!!

 

[Five Oh Brian]

LOL, thanks for all the info and the irrefutable data. Good to see nice solid gains. I have the Airaid CAI on my 15 GT but I'm gonna try the JLT just for comparison purposes. Good to see people are getting solid results!!

Okay, here's the problem I have with dyno #'s on CAI's. My '11 GT with Steeda CAI made 409 rwhp on a Mustang dyno (with just a tune & CAI for mods), yet my ET's at our local dragstrips didn't change one bit vs the stock airbox with tune - not even a hundredth of a second. Sure, that CAI looked cool and it dyno'd well, but in the real world it didn't offer any increased performance whatsoever. Exactly why my '14 GT still rocks the factory airbox.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Thanks man! David from Steeda already contacted me and offered me a nice deal. Real nice guy. I like the look of the Steeda the best and it even has a hole at the bottom of the airbox in case any water would find its way in, so that's a bonus.

Steeda CAI it is. Order placed! Really excited about this. This will be my first mod to install myself and I am looking forward to it! Should really round out the engine bay looks too.

Thanks for your advice. It put me at ease.

Glad to help out and offer up feedback. Great purchase, too

Happy to have you on board! We'll get that shipped out to you asap! Looking forward to your feedback once installed. :cheers:

:cheers::first:

 

[4V Mayhem]

Okay, here's the problem I have with dyno #'s on CAI's. My '11 GT with Steeda CAI made 409 rwhp on a Mustang dyno (with just a tune & CAI for mods), yet my ET's at our local dragstrips didn't change one bit vs the stock airbox with tune - not even a hundredth of a second. Sure, that CAI looked cool and it dyno'd well, but in the real world it didn't offer any increased performance whatsoever. Exactly why my '14 GT still rocks the factory airbox.

Well if you're looking for lower ET times then 10-15 hp won't do much to that end. Especially on a car that weighs as much as these do. And that is where a lot of the debates on here stem from. Because some of you guys gauge "performance" solely on what a mod does at the track. While others of us who track every now and then but mainly DD our cars judge "performance" by what we feel when driving. I've said it countless times that even if a CAI does not improve hp/tq, it still could improve throttle response. That alone is enough to make a car feel like it is faster even if it isn't. Sorta like a throttle controller or a sprint booster. Both of those improve TR and makes the car feel faster. The increased TR from a CAI will have a similar effect. Or so I believe. So when you guys who track start telling those of us who DD our cars that a CAI did nothing, it is based on an apples to oranges comparison. And that starts arguments.

I also believe that when you guys who mainly track feel differences but gain nothing at the track, you automatically write what you felt off as placebo. And I think that is why some of you insist that other people "felt nothing". And I think that as of right now, the trend is to view everything from a track point of view. Where if something made no change then it was worthless. Track is only part of the equation just like dyno numbers. For example, dyno numbers can only measure at WOT. But what about partial throttle? And what about TR? Dynos cannot measure that and I'm not sure there is a way to actually measure those. But it has to be noted. Not everything has to be based on track times. I've had cars that were fast at the track from a start and ran mid 13s but couldn't roll-on worth a damn. And I've had slower cars that had better roll-ons and felt faster but ran low 14s. Guess which was more fun to DD. I even hate to admit this but I dated a chick who had an 04 Honda Accord coupe. I had an 03 GT at the time. At the track, of course the GT was faster. But around town and on the highway, the Accord felt sprintier, quicker, lighter on its feet, had a much more crisp TR, and was much more fun. Even tho it was slower in the quarter by a lot. And I'd put money that the Accord coupe would have beat my GT from a 60 roll. Mainly because my GT had 4.10s and ran out of RPM at 90. That thing, even a Maxima gave me a hard time at 90. It just fell flat on it's face with that BS 4sp auto trans. Sorry for my rant. I know a lot of people here hate my point of view or see me as a bit off but I don't care about that. I try to rationalize the entire driving experience and not just the WOT gear banging ET trap speed part of the equation.

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