Where are all the timeslips at? (Camaro vs Mustang)

[1mic]

There's something seriously wonky about that test...

I would expect an m4 to be faster than the lowest model v8 camaro. Later on we will probably see two more top dog camaros, and those should be faster. Maybe the gen 6 camaro is just a well performing beast?

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[04SloSnake]

If I was Ford I'd give the mags the car that highlights the options I want people to buy because I'd be interested in selling cars with the highest profit margins. I'd know that the .1-.5 second advantage on a strip or road course doesn't make that much difference because historicaly data shows we sell mustangs regardless of a performance advantage or disadvantage. Might as well advertise that loaded up margin machine.

Exactly. Ford is obviously proud of their new and improved interior and want people to see it. That seems to be their biggest advertisement piece right now.

 

[1320']

I would expect an m4 to be faster than the lowest model v8 camaro. Later on we will probably see two more top dog camaros, and those should be faster. Maybe the gen 6 camaro is just a well performing beast?

No, I mean in the way the Camaro was optioned vs the "as tested" price...

A 2SS with the M6 + MRC is around $45,000

A 2SS with MRC+6 piston is over $47,000

A 2SS with MRC+Nav is less than 46,000

See what I mean?

I'm not doubting the performance of the new Camaro at all.

 

[1mic]

No, I mean in the way the Camaro was optioned vs the "as tested" price...

A 2SS with the M6 + MRC is around $45,000

A 2SS with MRC+6 piston is over $47,000

A 2SS with MRC+Nav is less than 46,000

See what I mean?

I'm not doubting the performance of the new Camaro at all.

I shouldnt have quoted you, but I expected the m4 to be almost untouchable when it came to track times compared to the basic v8 pony cars. Well it beats the Mustang.

 

[pietran30]

Are you guys all subscribed to motor trend on demand? Isn't that the only way to see it for the next month?

 

[ForTehNguyen]

There's something seriously wonky about that test...

M4 could barely beat a GT PP and a 4000# RCF, and got beat by last gen 1LE

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs-streets-of-willow

 

[mustang_guy]

:lol: a gt500 did it faster then an m4.

 

[FastCarFanBoy]

65 Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 1:30.35 405 / 1430
74 Ford GT 1:31.57 550 / 1538

never would have guessed those 2 cars would be such turds on a road course

 

[JohnnyUtah]

Heading over to Camaro6 with a bucket of opcorn:

losing to the '15 1LE by .34 is negligible but beating the GTPP by 1sec is a curb stomping...got it.

.34 seconds on different days is indeed negligible. Depending on weather conditions my lap times can vary by more than a second. In extreme cases it can be even more if it is very hot.

Head to heads are meant to compare cars on the same track conditions.

 

[FastCarFanBoy]

.34 seconds on different days is indeed negligible. Depending on weather conditions my lap times can vary by more than a second. In extreme cases it can be even more if it is very hot.

Head to heads are meant to compare cars on the same track conditions.

So 1sec on different days is still a curb stomping or did you intentionally not quote that portion of my sentence?

 

[ZaneWayne]

Take the times on tracks that are a year apart (or more), and in different times of the year with a grain of salt. Not really apples to apples at all. The Mustang maybe closer than a second, or it may be more. But taking lap times done in two different times of the year, more than a year apart is tough to compare. Hopefully Motortrend or someone will put the gtpp, ss, base 350 in a head2head.

 

[Cashcow]

Was Randy driving the cars around the track or journalists? This would explain the slower time than the 5th 1LE.

 

[mustang_guy]

Was Randy driving the cars around the track or journalists? This would explain the slower time than the 5th 1LE.

I was under the impression randy was. If he wasnt that would explain a lot. :lol:

 

[ZaneWayne]

Was Randy driving the cars around the track or journalists? This would explain the slower time than the 5th 1LE.

He usually does the H2H's right?

 

[Memphis]

Take the times on tracks that are a year apart (or more), and in different times of the year with a grain of salt. Not really apples to apples at all. The Mustang maybe closer than a second, or it may be more. But taking lap times done in two different times of the year, more than a year apart is tough to compare. Hopefully Motortrend or someone will put the gtpp, ss, base 350 in a head2head.

They need to put the track pack to test against it. Regardless if it wins or not because next year there won't be a base.


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