VMP Loki Kit $6999

[Stymee]

That appeared to be a very well prepared track. With the custom tuning,I don't find these results particularly remarkable. A stage 1 Edelbrock or Whipple with custom tuning would equal those numbers. So would a custom tuned Roush, for that matter. The 1.5 60 is no joke, though. Very impressive.

Well it was in the 80’s
Not bad for the first time out with the car

But your right, it’s the norm for custom tuning

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[BlueCollarDaily]

That appeared to be a very well prepared track. With the custom tuning,I don't find these results particularly remarkable. A stage 1 Edelbrock or Whipple with custom tuning would equal those numbers. So would a custom tuned Roush, for that matter. The 1.5 60 is no joke, though. Very impressive.

Having personally had it the stage 1 Edelbrock would need a belt every 3 runs hehe...yes 10.5 psi with a 2650 is 10.5psi with a 2650tvs Eaton rotor pack...

Aside from the tuning ( which was the key ) I guess the variables could be a better drive system on 6rib than EB or better 60ft than the whipple...physics would kinda indicate it would be unlikely a 3.0L( heavier rotors as well) at less rotor speed could manage the same 60ft with stock stall and similar tires and gears than a 2650tvs can ( I know mine is making full boost off idle in stage 2 trim with 103mm tb, I find it hard to believe I hit harder or that I can pull out the back end as well as the whipple that's the compromise....which is better is up to the individual ).

My stage 1 ran a different air filter...im sure they are all similar, I mean procharger now has stall selection to equalize them as well....
A few things I did note he said the temp went DOWN during the pass, now if that's real air stream temp post compressor then that could be huge but supposedly that supercharger does have the best cooling....which in the sportsman level is a difference....
In order of worst to best
Roush
Whipple
Edelbrock
Loki ?
VMP also has such availability to cooling systems to package what works best....
To me its also a $650 value in that it will come with a custom tune....vs none or 50 states....I mean 6999 with the custom tune if they include 2and gear leave would be a smoking entry point if it includes upgraded well working intercooler/HE

Any points for cosmetic appeal?
Did anyone ask him if it was cat delete I know it wasnt long tubes.. choice is good.....I like they will support and tweak the platform for many years to come.....

I like how they are splitting out the sportsman level to the Loki series kits and race to Odin, however on Gen 3 Coyote I'll take my Edelbrock everytime because I'm not giving away the warranty on the engine or trans each of which in the 10s on 93 are probably not gonna make 36k boosted miles hehe

 

[Stage_3]

That appeared to be a very well prepared track.

True.
And let's not forget, he's letting the car cool between runs. These aren't back to back to back runs.

 

[brucelinc]

Listening to this video has me wondering how worried I should be about the 7th gear clutch when I go back to the strip. He was wrong about it being OD but many say the 7th gear clutch is a weak point. Pretty sure I am going to have a shift to 7th toward the end of the quarter.

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

Listening to this video has me wondering how worried I should be about the 7th gear clutch when I go back to the strip. He was wrong about it being OD but many say the 7th gear clutch is a weak point. Pretty sure I am going to have a shift to 7th toward the end of the quarter.

I was told I'd be tuned to hold 7800 in 6th if that's what it took to hold it out of 7th....I guess it's a real issue....yea he conflated that he knows he should stay out of 7th thinking it's an over drive but the fact remains he was trained to stay out of 7th....heh..

I have 3.15s and 28 tire if I hit 7th after 7600 shifts I need to let off anyway hehe.....

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

True.
And let's not forget, he's letting the car cool between runs. These aren't back to back to back runs.

Who does back to back runs that doesnt have an interchiller? It's common form to cool down, look at logs tweak tune and go again...looked like a track rental with some serious cars....
1.5x is sticking for that tire and shock combo for sure....

 

[brucelinc]

I was told I'd be tuned to hold 7800 in 6th if that's what it took to hold it out of 7th....I guess it's a real issue....yea he conflated that he knows he should stay out of 7th thinking it's an over drive but the fact remains he was trained to stay out of 7th....heh..

I have 3.15s and 28 tire if I hit 7th after 7600 shifts I need to let off anyway hehe.....

I don't think it is an issue with less than 750 HP. I would never rev to 7800 to avoid it unless I had upgraded OPGs. If you have 3.15 gears, you would never need 7th unless you are racing 1/2 mile or more.

 

[Stymee]

Listening to this video has me wondering how worried I should be about the 7th gear clutch when I go back to the strip. He was wrong about it being OD but many say the 7th gear clutch is a weak point. Pretty sure I am going to have a shift to 7th toward the end of the quarter.

Or a taller tire.....

Me, I have 3.15 with a 27.4 tire
I would think I’ll never hit 7th

 

[brucelinc]

No, you won't hit 7th. I will probably get some taller tires but I am going to try my 275s first....only 26.1 inches tall. I will probably hit 7th but my Ford Performance tech says it will stand up to 750 whp without issue. I do have warranty so I am not going to worry about it.

 

[Stage_3]

Who does back to back runs that doesnt have an interchiller? It's common form to cool down, look at logs tweak tune and go again...looked like a track rental with some serious cars....
1.5x is sticking for that tire and shock combo for sure....

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

I don't think it is an issue with less than 750 HP. I would never rev to 7800 to avoid it unless I had upgraded OPGs. If you have 3.15 gears, you would never need 7th unless you are racing 1/2 mile or more.

Right I'd be in free flight haha the figure I was given was 650whp by a reputable well known vendor...above that percentages drop on a curve your mileage may vary....
I was told by same well known vendor they hardly ever see OPG break from rpm without bouncing off a limiter but ( remember I'm still new ) they were improved for the gen 3 using the GT350 pump and pick up tube 10qts ect...aka not as needed as most think based on earlier data, which I cant assert as I wasnt around then...I suppose the biggest variable would be the harmonic balanced and load/resonance on the snout....
He was obviously turning decent rpm out the back of his run to stay out of 7th towards the end...

I dont assert these things just factoids I've gathered talking to various entities from builders to tuners over the last year....personally I didnt want to risk it either and just done it...
Seems like a lot of the earlier FBO E85 tuned cars were shifting super high without blowers however that does make one wonder whom has the best rotor back in terms of weight moved and resonate vibrations. Tortional load by efficiency curves God what a ball of wax to get into lol.....I can honestly say 1 think OPG/S have historically been the least of my worries...hehe

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

No, you won't hit 7th. I will probably get some taller tires but I am going to try my 275s first....only 26.1 inches tall. I will probably hit 7th but my Ford Performance tech says it will stand up to 750 whp without issue. I do have warranty so I am not going to worry about it.

Wait you have warranty with 750whp that allows you to race, that's the company I want? What rpm did they say was fine with stock OPG/S?

I have been told way under that power if you mean wheel by the guys rebuilding and tuning them....I wish we had a database instead of one guys tells one this and a Ford tech tells another that ect......I dont know your guy personally would never judge him but aside from Ken, they have all seemed shall we say uninspired hehe....

I was told to stay out of 7th WAY under 750whp and this guy in question was obviously worried about it at 610whp....who is right? I hope you...

 

[brucelinc]

I will probably only have 650 whp or less with the warrantied Roush canned tune. I will find out if 7th will stand the strain. My tech says it will stand it but if not, we will have upgraded clutches installed.

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

I will probably only have 650 whp or less with the warrantied Roush canned tune. I will find out if 7th will stand the strain. My tech says it will stand it but if not, we will have upgraded clutches installed.

How much does he get for the clutches, I've heard of some dealerships that will do it saving shipping !!!!!

Good luck cant wait to see how it goes!!!! It's a good time to choose!!!!

 

[brucelinc]

How much does he get for the clutches, I've heard of some dealerships that will do it saving shipping !!!!!

Good luck cant wait to see how it goes!!!! It's a good time to choose!!!!

I don't know about the cost. I would just pay the difference between stock parts and the upgraded clutches if I have a failure while under warranty.

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