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MikeAZ

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I have been researching automobile distribution schemes while waiting for my 2015 Mustang order to be scheduled for production. Questions and observations on what I have found follow and hopefully will give some insight on current industry practices. Please excuse the length of this post.


It appears as if all or not most domestic manufacturers currently use a pull system where dealers place orders (in an order bank) for vehicles configured to their specifications. There may be manufacturer based research and recommendations on a regional or local level that they can lean on to help make the decisions or they can rely on historical sales data. Access to material hold data may also impact configuration choices. But ultimately the configurations available on the lot are the responsibility of the dealerships. In this scheme, the number of vehicle allotments are earned primarily through sales volumes. There appears to be about a 30-day to 45-day target for supply of vehicles on the lot using the pull strategy. The industry as a whole would like to reduce the on hand inventory numbers even further.



In the not to distant past, the domestic manufacturers used a push system where they determined through research and historical sales data what configurations to build and the number of vehicles to send to each dealership. This scheme could and did in many years lead to excessive dealer inventory which required huge discounts and incentives to deplete the inventory. Vehicle supply under the push environment was much longer, typically over 90 days of inventory.


Foreign manufactures appear to use primarily a push based system where a given model has a few fixed configurations that can be customized with a limited number of options installed at the port of entry or at the dealership. Inventory is controlled by sales volumes. A sold customer order of a foreign manufactured vehicle is in reality a final configuration of a desired trim level of either a vehicle already at the dealership, or one destined for the dealership at the port of entry.


At the start of a model year, especially if a tooling change is involved, dealer allocations are built and shipped first to populate dealer lots with the new model. After that, orders for customers that put down deposits are intermixed with dealer allocations. The prioritization scheme uses previous sales, regional research data, material availability, and other undisclosed factors as input to the selection of placed (banked) orders. It is unknown if Ford counts a sold customer order against a dealer’s allocation numbers.


Dealers determine build sequence priority for their orders when they place them and at Ford it is independent between sold customer orders and dealer allocations. In other words, a dealer can decide which sold order is to be scheduled first and which dealer allocation he would like to receive first but he cannot specify the build sequence between a sold unit and a dealer allocation unit without gaming the system (such as temporarily canceling all sold orders to insure the dealer allocations are scheduled). Material shortages can and do sometimes rearrange the dealer set priorities. Manufacturing goals can also affect scheduling – for example a particular model may have overall manufacturer determined mileage targets and low mileage variants of the model may be suspended until enough units of the higher mileage versions are produced.


There appear to be several ways a dealer can circumvent the “fairness” of the distribution scheme, know as “falsely reported transactions” (a violation of their dealer agreements). One method is placing dealer allocation orders as sold customer orders. Some manufacturers pull (or did in the past) sold customer orders before dealer allocations. In 2012, GM determined that about 30% of its supposedly sold orders ended up on dealer lots. Another strategy is for a dealer to temporarily relocate vehicles from one store to another of his stores (or a fellow dealer) to inflate sales numbers when the monthly inventory survey is taken by the manufacturer. This will lead to additional allocations based on sales or inventory levels.


There are several forum members with dealer and manufacturer contacts on this forum. Could any of you answer or comment on the following questions?


Have I captured the current state of automobile allocation and distribution accurately, especially at Ford?


At Ford, do sold customer orders have priority over dealer allocations at any time during a model year's scheduling and if so, under what conditions?


Do dealer allocation numbers affect the scheduling of sold customer orders for a particular dealership (for an extreme example, if a small dealership sold no units of a model the previous year and has one or no allocations, under what conditions will the sold order get scheduled in relation to other dealership orders)?


Does Ford have any processes in place to discover dealers gaming the allocation system and if so what are the penalties?
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This is honestly a bit too much for me to read to reply to lol
 

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There are several forum members with dealer and manufacturer contacts on this forum. Could any of you answer or comment on the following questions?


Have I captured the current state of automobile allocation and distribution accurately, especially at Ford? kind of and kind of not. It is more complicated than your description.


At Ford, do sold customer orders have priority over dealer allocations at any time during a model year's scheduling and if so, under what conditions? If you are referring to retail and stock, yes retail would be scheduled ahead of stock if there is allocation. ex. If you want a triple yellow GT And the dealer wants a race red GT, if the allocations are for race red, the stock will get sequenced first. If all things are equal, the retail should get sequenced first if it is a higher priority. 98% of the scheduling is a computer program, computers are not flawless.


Do dealer allocation numbers affect the scheduling of sold customer orders for a particular dealership (for an extreme example, if a small dealership sold no units of a model the previous year and has one or no allocations, under what conditions will the sold order get scheduled in relation to other dealership orders)? Yes, if there is no allocation for the order, it is not scheduled


Does Ford have any processes in place to discover dealers gaming the allocation system and if so what are the penalties?
Internal policies are not public in any business.

There are many more variables that determine when your car gets scheduled and delivery is a whole other mess that will get dragged through the mud here, come October...lol

I don't work at a dealer (could never work those hours at that pay) I am related to an owner by marriage.
 

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Internal policies are not public in any business.

There are many more variables that determine when your car gets scheduled and delivery is a whole other mess that will get dragged through the mud here, come October...lol

I don't work at a dealer (could never work those hours at that pay) I am related to an owner by marriage.
Car Salesmen, at least around here, work pretty decent hours for pretty good pay. The dealership I bought my car from is only open from 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, so right off the bat they're only working a twelve hour day -- which looks pretty good from my vantage point of working 18 hour days most days, plus weekends...

And I've known car salesmen who make in the $140K / year range, which is pretty decent money in my view. Of course, they've got to do some things that I don't really consider ethical to get that money, and I could never do it myself, but it's still pretty good money for not that much work, working 60 hours a week or less.
 

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Car Salesmen, at least around here, work pretty decent hours for pretty good pay. The dealership I bought my car from is only open from 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, so right off the bat they're only working a twelve hour day -- which looks pretty good from my vantage point of working 18 hour days most days, plus weekends...

And I've known car salesmen who make in the $140K / year range, which is pretty decent money in my view. Of course, they've got to do some things that I don't really consider ethical to get that money, and I could never do it myself, but it's still pretty good money for not that much work, working 60 hours a week or less.
I know a few salesmen who pull in 6 figures, but that is not the norm. They do it because they have integrity and built a clientele over many years. There are younger ones who are new and want the big checks right off the bat and unfortunately can make a dealer look really bad. Here the guys work 12 hours a day with Sunday off. They get another day, but it can't be Friday, Saturday or Monday. Split weekends suck to put it bluntly.
 

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MikeAZ, you are really close in your analysis. Where you may be off slightly is inconsequential as the vast majority of what you've written is fairly accurate in theory - at least within Ford.

Ford does have a system for identifying bogus "sold" (retail) orders, and penalties in place to discourage this practice.

Sold (retail) orders typically have priority over a dealer's stock orders all year, except early in a model year before the "okay to buy" has been achieved for retail orders.

Retail orders for a dealership won't get built if that dealer doesn't have allocation for that model. However, a periodic (monthly) clean up occurs for most model lines to get retail orders scheduled even in the absence of allocation. Again, that's just for most models - not all models.

Again, your overall observations are fairly close. Good work understanding what many in the car business often don't understand!
 
 








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