Vargas Stage 2 Owners

[VargasTurboTech]

The actuator that comes with the turbo is 100% not stock. It cracks at 17 psi, and is fully open around 21. Each, and every actuator is bench tested with an extremely accurate pressure tester before the turbo is packed, and shipped to ensure they are opening when designed. A stock actuator cracks in the 10-12 psi range, not 17 psi.

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[Tune+]

The actuator that comes with the turbo is 100% not stock. It cracks at 17 psi, and is fully open around 21. Each, and every actuator is bench tested with an extremely accurate pressure tester before the turbo is packed, and shipped to ensure they are opening when designed. A stock actuator cracks in the 10-12 psi range, not 17 psi.

This is from Jscott's car, looks like this one might of been mixed up? Boost was a max of 14.4psi on the run. Baro is 14.7psi in his area so that wasn't the factor, I thought it was weird. I always test the the car with a new turbo for spring pressure before tuning so I can have a better idea where WGDC needs to be to hit target boost.

I would screenshot the whole thing but this is what I had already available when I was showing JScott in an email.

Will post what it looks like with some WGDC later.

 

[JSCOTT0812]

I'm about to do a run with the 1st revision and shoot it over to ya Adam. Thanks for the info.

 

[VargasTurboTech]

This is from Jscott's car, looks like this one might of been mixed up? Boost was a max of 14.4psi on the run. Baro is 14.7psi in his area so that wasn't the factor, I thought it was weird. I always test the the car with a new turbo for spring pressure before tuning so I can have a better idea where WGDC needs to be to hit target boost.

I would screenshot the whole thing but this is what I had already available when I was showing JScott in an email.

Will post what it looks like with some WGDC later.

Adam, hot and cold cracking are always different. I will not bother posting a video of the bench spring test, its not needed but 17 psi cracking cold could be around 14-15 psi hot, this is normal. I have the same gate on my car that we tuned, it holds 30+ psi no sweat, but only makes 14.5-15 on the spring only, once hot. Testing a stock IWG hot it will crack at 10 psi or less.

 

[KrisR]

This is from Jscott's car, looks like this one might of been mixed up? Boost was a max of 14.4psi on the run. Baro is 14.7psi in his area so that wasn't the factor, I thought it was weird. I always test the the car with a new turbo for spring pressure before tuning so I can have a better idea where WGDC needs to be to hit target boost.

I would screenshot the whole thing but this is what I had already available when I was showing JScott in an email.

Will post what it looks like with some WGDC later.

Boost leak somewhere perhaps?

 

[Tune+]

Boost leak somewhere perhaps?

Doubt it.

Adam, hot and cold cracking are always different. I will not bother posting a video of the bench spring test, its not needed but 17 psi cracking cold could be around 14-15 psi hot, this is normal. I have the same gate on my car that we tuned, it holds 30+ psi no sweat, but only makes 14.5-15 on the spring only, once hot. Testing a stock IWG hot it will crack at 10 psi or less.

Stock WG will open at 7psi hot or cold, however one pre-loaded will go up to 12-13psi.

When we did the testing on your car we used the Turbosmart actuator.

 

[VargasTurboTech]

When we did the testing on your car we used the Turbosmart actuator.

No we absolutely did not. I told you I had two of them leak on me out of the box just bench testing, and refused to run one. You talked me into trying it. I put it on the car, and it instantly leaked. I took it off, and never put it back off. As far as hot / cold IWG spring rates changing, not gonna argue with you, I know it 100% changes with temp.

 

[Apwrx]

No we absolutely did not. I told you I had two of them leak on me out of the box just bench testing, and refused to run one. You talked me into trying it. I put it on the car, and it instantly leaked. I took it off, and never put it back off. As far as hot / cold IWG spring rates changing, not gonna argue with you, I know it 100% changes with temp.

That seems like a very certain response. Someones confused, are there anyother tuners dialing in these turbos?

 

[VargasTurboTech]

It could not be more certain. The car remains unchanged since we tuned it. Literally nothing on the car has been changed. It has never had a TS IWG on it except for maybe 5 minutes, it leaked, and the 90 angle on the nipple is a good way to break your boost reference line, it was removed, and thrown back in a box. The EFR high boost can is a much better upgrade for stock turbos, while remaining stock appearing, and performing better than the TS IWG's for about half the cost. We modeled out S2 actuator off the EFR high boost can as far as spring pressures, etc.

I should clarify for posterities sake, we are the biggest turbosmart supporters, and are dealers, but have not had the best luck with the IWG's. We use them on somethings, but not often. Just a matter of preference

 

[perfweld]

That seems like a very certain response. Someones confused, are there anyother tuners dialing in these turbos?

Lund tunes my car and dosent seem to have any problems, nor does he make a big deal out of it. Ive got a few different boost tunes now, its possible that its harder for some people I suppose.

 

[VargasTurboTech]

I have a few PM's about the upgraded Actuator mentioned for the EBM running stock turbos. To tell you a little more about it. It is a direct bolt on, with the proper nipple orientation while slightly different that stock, it remains very close to stock appearing. We had to have custom rod ends made for the EBM, as these units usually comes with no rod end. The actuator will allow you to hold boost much better than the stock actuator, but should be coupled with a tune revision to avoid overboost codes. They are $99.00, with $10 shipping in the US. They are in stock, with same day shipping and can be found here. http://performance.vargasturbo.com/mustang-ecoboost/

 

[juan_tony1]

Installed vs2 still in the tuning phase seems to spool by 4k....and it amplified the exhaust tone too much for me lol....have mbrp race and catless dp...but.going to have to get a resonator to help get rid of some drone.

 

[VargasTurboTech]

Yes the turbo really shows how restrictive the factory turbo is by how much louder the exhaust note gets. I had cat less, and MBRP steet, and it was too loud for me. The resonator not only get rid of drone, it completely changes the exhaust note, and makes it sound awesome. I love it with the resonator on it!

 

[juan_tony1]

Yes the turbo really shows how restrictive the factory turbo is by how much louder the exhaust note gets. I had cat less, and MBRP steet, and it was too loud for me. The resonator not only get rid of drone, it completely changes the exhaust note, and makes it sound awesome. I love it with the resonator on it!

Im going to try to figure something out by next week hopefully....I want crackles and pops but no drone

 

[CustomS550]

Are there certain parameters that I would need to pass on to my tuner for them to be able to tune for an upgraded WG?

I have a few PM's about the upgraded Actuator mentioned for the EBM running stock turbos. To tell you a little more about it. It is a direct bolt on, with the proper nipple orientation while slightly different that stock, it remains very close to stock appearing. We had to have custom rod ends made for the EBM, as these units usually comes with no rod end. The actuator will allow you to hold boost much better than the stock actuator, but should be coupled with a tune revision to avoid overboost codes. They are $99.00, with $10 shipping in the US. They are in stock, with same day shipping and can be found here. http://performance.vargasturbo.com/mustang-ecoboost/

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