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So what did that run you? Looks like good job, mine will be a daily driver as long as I care to have it.
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Looks good, however define "long time". This is a new car and I struggle to accept it can be any worse than other new cars. People do not generally do this when they buy a new car.
I know, undersealing your own car seems like something from the 1970s.

I think the difference is that new cars are normally undersealed (or whatever process they use) properly at the factory. I gather only a token effort was done by the dockside of some weather beaten port in continental Europe, for our cars.

There is a reason that Euro cars aren't undersealed at the Ford factory - something to to with chemicals, regulations, licensing or something, but basically amounts to cutting costs. On the forums here somewhere.
 

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I know, undersealing your own car seems like something from the 1970s.

I think the difference is that new cars are normally undersealed (or whatever process they use) properly at the factory. I gather only a token effort was done by the dockside of some weather beaten port in continental Europe, for our cars.

There is a reason that Euro cars aren't undersealed at the Ford factory - something to to with chemicals, regulations, licensing or something, but basically amounts to cutting costs. On the forums here somewhere.
I believe they don't underseal their domestic output in the US. My partner bought a new 2006 Mustang off the line for import and it just had paint.
 

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I want to get this done as I will be keeping my car.I had a look under and it's blasted everywhere, trouble is I can't find a company near me that looks professional. Might have to take a trip up north for a couple of days to get it done.List of things to do is getting longer!
 

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Fat chance I know but surely this is something that Ford UK should be made aware of and should be sorting.

After all when the underside starts rotting they'll be shelling out.
 

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What would be useful would be Ford UK's standpoint on this issue. Obviously asking the dealer is pointless as they'll just say its already done - if repair needs to be carried out under warranty then that's all money in the bank for them

I really don't like bugging Mr Barratt with these technical issues - sure he's got plenty of other stuff to be getting on with. It would be helpful if one of their Production staff had a presence on here.
 

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What would be useful would be Ford UK's standpoint on this issue. Obviously asking the dealer is pointless as they'll just say its already done - if repair needs to be carried out under warranty then that's all money in the bank for them

I really don't like bugging Mr Barratt with these technical issues - sure he's got plenty of other stuff to be getting on with. It would be helpful if one of their Production staff had a presence on here.
I think it is important enough to bug him with. Off loading all the cars in Zeebrugge, setting up an operation carry it out etc represents a massive outlay and a significant change in policy from US production. Somebody important must have signed off on it, and the specification for the treatment.

BTW - does it burn off the exhaust? Could be another fire risk.

Are you on here Andy?
 

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Doesn't Andy Barrett have his own Mustang now? If he takes a look underneath he'll be horrified at the mess.

My exhausts are coated in the black stuff thus nothing has got to where it is really needed.

People in Europe have gone to great expense to have it taken off and then done properly. Surely Ford should be paying.
 

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Doesn't Andy Barrett have his own Mustang now? If he takes a look underneath he'll be horrified at the mess.

My exhausts are coated in the black stuff thus nothing has got to where it is really needed.

People in Europe have gone to great expense to have it taken off and then done properly. Surely Ford should be paying.
Bit of a grey area I suppose. Whilst the underseal is poor, not sure it could it be described as a 'defect', or make the car 'not fit for purpose'. I could be wrong, but suspect we'd have a job getting Ford to pay for it to be done properly. I imagine, at best, the dealer could do it as warranty work, in which case we'd be looking at 'the lad' and a spray can job. They're not going to pay out for a specialist to get it done to a high standard.
 

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Bit of a grey area I suppose. Whilst the underseal is poor, not sure it could it be described as a 'defect', or make the car 'not fit for purpose'. I could be wrong, but suspect we'd have a job getting Ford to pay for it to be done properly. I imagine, at best, the dealer could do it as warranty work, in which case we'd be looking at 'the lad' and a spray can job. They're not going to pay out for a specialist to get it done to a high standard.
I think that misses the point that Ford have paid someone to do this over and above the production cost in the US, which has also added to their logistics costs. They must have a had a reason, and a specification for what they wanted to achieve. If it hasn't been achieved then there must be some come back for Ford on their contractor, or us against Ford.
 

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I don't think Ford cares. They've known about this since the first cars arrived in Europe many months ago and have done nothing. As for our comeback against Ford, I suspect they'd just say "its within specification". Worth an email to the dealer mind you on the off-chance. Need to see mine when its up on a ramp first and get some pics.
 

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Has anybody got any photos of a car effected by this?
 
 








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