Stock Ecoboost Performance Issue

[AMAlexLazarus]

I'd go with a tune first then a FMIC then a downpipe. The stock intake breathes pretty good and you'll need an upgraded FMIC to make good, reliable power. From there, I'd do a downpipe and/or cat-back.

Right on Juben - The EcoBoost's are pretty asthmatic and they really do benefit from having their intake and exhaust side overhauled - I know for a fact that we're going to have a Front Mount Intercooler on site here shortly and not only am I personally interested in the benefits on the IAT side but I think overall that it's going to work hand in hand paired with a Cold Air Intake and a Downpipe

After that a Catback Exhaust is going to be the way to go as they're going to yield that much more of an improvement, especially on Turbocharged cars - I wouldn't even suggest looking at an Axle-Back unless you're after a slight burble and zero performance gain.

If anyone has any questions don't hesitate to let me know

I have a full weight premium with the shaker audio, and it's auto, I weigh 260, and my best is 5.9 letting it shift its self

Larry - That's pretty impressive! Imagine what it would be like with some Fine Tuning from the Bama Performance Team!

Alex

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[15wile]

For what it's worth as per the lowest handing fruit and what to do first if anything I would shoot for the Bama X4 Tuner right out of the gate. Not even from a sales perspective but from how I've personally modded cars in the past Domestic/import/ It's always the first thing that was done followed by a Cold Air shortly thereafter. They literally go hand in hand with each-other.

Let me know if you have any questions at all, I'm always around to help!

Haven't had a chance to do another 0-60 run yet, the roads were still slick this morning from last night's big rain. But tonight I should be able to see if traction control makes a difference.

That being said, I'm looking at the Bama tuner + Air Raid CAI kit on American Muscle, and I'll probably order it next week. I've been watching some of the videos on it, but realistically, what kind of gains am I looking at with that combo? The last vid I saw from Bama about it was several months back, not sure if they are even better now or not. And also, are they just "numbers" gains or do you really *feel* the difference in daily driving?

Thanks!

 

[EcoSwag1990]

...And also, are they just "numbers" gains or do you really *feel* the difference in daily driving?

Thanks!

Rhetorical question?

 

[15wile]

Rhetorical question?

Kind of, but not really. I've had friends who swore up and down their little K&N CAI did something, and they had dyno numbers to prove it. Me? I didn't feel anything at all. Of course, that was K&N, but still...

To me the Ecoboost feels like an "almost-performance car," like it just needs a little extra tweaked oomph and it'll be there. Hoping the tune + cai kit will be that little extra.

 

[EcoSwag1990]

Almost performance? What is your configuration? (manual vs auto, PP or non PP, etc.)

The intakes arent going to add much power without a tune but I did notice smoother acceleration up top. But tunes will make a big difference in seat of the pants feel. Ppl are pretty much shaving a full second off of their quarter mile times with tuning

 

[15wile]

Almost performance? What is your configuration? (manual vs auto, PP or non PP, etc.)

The intakes arent going to add much power without a tune but I did notice smoother acceleration up top. But tunes will make a big difference in seat of the pants feel. Ppl are pretty much shaving a full second off of their quarter mile times with tuning

Auto, non-PP. Bone stock at the moment... just took delivery of it this last weekend. I *almost* went with the performance package, but I'm just not a fan of owing a bank money, so I had to cutoff the budget south of that. Honestly, for what I paid for it, I was lucky to get it in auto too (needed it that way because my wife will drive it sometimes).

Here's a pic.

 

[KazyMedic]

The difference in rear ratios from you car to PP is pretty huge, not to mention driving standard also gives the feeling of performance over automatic. You bought the lowest performer out of the gate. Try test driving a PP. if I were you I would go to unleashed tuning, Torrie knows his way around the auto tranny. I went with MAP because I trust them a ton.

 

[EcoSwag1990]

Oh ok well for a non PP car if it was me, I would skip the cold air intake and get some suspension parts and the tune.

And lose those wheels for sure ;)

 

[15wile]

The difference in rear ratios from you car to PP is pretty huge, not to mention driving standard also gives the feeling of performance over automatic. You bought the lowest performer out of the gate. Try test driving a PP. if I were you I would go to unleashed tuning, Torrie knows his way around the auto tranny. I went with MAP because I trust them a ton.

I test drove the PP, in auto. Didn't feel much different, except it handled the twisties a LOT better. Less body roll. And honestly, I didn't care for the wheels that came with it either -- not that I care much for the stock ones on the base, either, but still, I'd have wound up replacing them no matter what.

Now, when I test drove a base model in manual. Oh yeah. That felt different. You could lift the car up, it was nuts. I was kind of hoping the dealer WOULDN'T meet my price on the automatic, because then I could have justified getting the manual. If the paddle shifters weren't there, I probably would have gone manual anyway, and just listened to the bitching while I tried to teach a woman who couldn't give two shits about cars how to drive stick.

But yeah, I know I was buying basic, and that comes with a price. Still, for basic models, the 2015s handle really well and come very well equipped. I love this car; as a daily driver, you just can't beat it at this price point. But I'd like a little extra power anyway. So hopefully the tune will satisfy.

And someday when I'm loaded with cash (we can dream, right?) I'll get myself a nice, pretty Shelby.

 

[15wile]

...and get some suspension parts and the tune.

What do you recommend for the suspension?

 

[EcoSwag1990]

What do you recommend for the suspension?

I'm personally waiting on the new package that BMR is coming out with to deal with wheel hop because I'm getting it pretty bad on hard launches when I do 0-60s or at the dragstrip. They said they are targeting $200 for it

For the non PP I would think this would be a good kit and it's cheaper than the intake.

http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=products&productid=1495&superpro=0

or

http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=products&productid=1496&superpro=0

 

[15wile]

I'm personally waiting on the new package that BMR is coming out with to deal with wheel hop because I'm getting it pretty bad on hard launches when I do 0-60s or at the dragstrip. They said they are targeting $200 for it

For the non PP I would think this would be a good kit and it's cheaper than the intake

http://www.americanmuscle.com/eibach-front-swaybar-2015.html

Nice. Thanks. I think I'll do that + the tune, then, for the first set of mods.

 

[EcoSwag1990]

I put that link at first but switched it because BMR has the same things for cheaper

 

[AMAlexLazarus]

Haven't had a chance to do another 0-60 run yet, the roads were still slick this morning from last night's big rain. But tonight I should be able to see if traction control makes a difference.

That being said, I'm looking at the Bama tuner + Air Raid CAI kit on American Muscle, and I'll probably order it next week. I've been watching some of the videos on it, but realistically, what kind of gains am I looking at with that combo?

The last vid I saw from Bama about it was several months back, not sure if they are even better now or not. And also, are they just "numbers" gains or do you really *feel* the difference in daily driving?

Thanks!

dystopic - Hands down you're going to feel and experience it - The EcoBoost in stock form without a few mods feels downright sluggish and if you want to wake it up the Airaid Cold Air & X4 is the way to go and you would be seeing upwards of roughly 25 wheel and 45+ tq - I can't stress it enough that you're going to feel this and I can attest the the power as our car has given my '08 a handful of trouble on the street! Let me know if you have any other questions at all and I'm here to help!

Alex

 

[15wile]

So with traction control off and brake boost, it got 5.9 seconds. That's closer to what I've seen on the youtube vids, so I'll use this as my baseline for modding.

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